Hypothetical election questions answered....

[moonshadow]

Thought this was interesting, as we have two candidates, in high risk categories regarding covid (one diagnosed, the other probably not far behind...)

What happens in the event of a candidates death?

Legal Eagle attempts to address the question...

https://youtu.be/UzzugWwv4-M

[Uncle Al]

Also, the video discusses how the Electoral College works.

Great info

Uncle Al

[moonshadow]

He seems to be pretty informative. Apparently a practicing lawyer currently living in D.C. I enjoy his videos as he tends to just stick to the facts of the law.

[Kirbstone]

This cartoon was published in an Irish newspaper. I don't know who the artist was or its source, but I understand it alludes to Trump's encouraging people in South Carolina to vote early.

Tom

[Rokje]

When a candidate dies, the running mate can decide to run for office with a new running mate. That's what I think.
Hypothetical: Biden dies, Kamala decides to go on with the show and chooses Hillary as her running mate.

We will be following the upcoming US elections every day now.
Next spring we have our own elections in the Netherlands. And that is just the same boring stuff every 4 years, but hey it's democracy so we vote.

[crfriend]

Hypothetical: Biden dies, Kamala decides to go on with the show and chooses Hillary as her running mate.

That would almost certainly guarantee four more years of Trump.

Actually, if the presidential candidate dies, the party would have to nominate a new presidential candidate and then a vice-presidential candidate. This would be problematic at best because all the "election" paperwork was prepared long in advance of the actual thing. The general thoughts here run towards the election being run with the dead candidate still on the ballot, and then the VP might assume power via the constitutional rules.

The difficulty comes this time 'round in how many people have already cast their ballots by mail (like me). For them it's too late if a scenario such as the above comes to fruition. Not that it really matters anyway because all the candidates were blessed by the oligarchs in advance anyway and one will be the same as another to the rabble.

[Shilo]

Too true. It’s the men in grey suits who run the show. The rabble at best gets to choose which shade of grey. This is what passes for democracy but there’s much worse in the world.
“ They looked from pigs to men and men to pigs and couldn’t tell which was which” Apologies to George Orwell for the mis quote.

[Bertino56]

I have a bumper sticker on my car that says
VOTE ... while you still can!

[crfriend]

There are plenty of lawn signs and bumper-stickers around here pleading for "Any Functioning Adult" in 2020.

[r.m.anderson]

There are plenty of lawn signs and bumper-stickers around here pleading for "Any Functioning Adult" in 2020.

One of those signs:

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[moonshadow]

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My little homemade sign...

Don't worry... it's child friendly... kids can't read cursive anymore...

[Shilo]

Seems to me that you guys have to choose the lesser of two evils. The worst thing you can do is not choose and sit on the fence. That way you forfeit the right to moan about whoever wins.

[crfriend]

Seems to me that you guys have to choose the lesser of two evils. The worst thing you can do is not choose and sit on the fence. That way you forfeit the right to moan about whoever wins.

That's pretty much been the way it is all my adult life. I recall a single candidate being worth voting for, and when he was elected continued the policies of what will likely go down in history as being the nation's most overtly evil administration in history.

[Faldaguy]

by crfriend » Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:58 am

Shilo wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:10 am
Seems to me that you guys have to choose the lesser of two evils. The worst thing you can do is not choose and sit on the fence. That way you forfeit the right to moan about whoever wins.

That's pretty much been the way it is all my adult life. I recall a single candidate being worth voting for, and when he was elected continued the policies of what will likely go down in history as being the nation's most overtly evil administration in history.

Carl I don't need to remind you, but perhaps for others watching this space, that is because the candidates are truly bought and sold -- the few who are naive enough to think they can make a difference should have known from the onset that the money that gets them there is poisoned and if they seek to step outside the bounds, there are consequences. (There in fact have been credible threats of harm, or more, upon family members of POTUS when other forms of intimidation did not work.) Until "Citizens United") the ruling that gave Corporations personhood is not only overturned--but elections are publicly funded and other bribes severely constrained will they ever be much hope for 'justice' in the USA. We vote at best for the least evil cheerleader -- and cheerleaders don't play the game on the field -- in fact, the field is behind closed doors.

[rode_kater]

Until "Citizens United") the ruling that gave Corporations personhood is not only overturned

Legal personality is a thing, and is what allows corporations (and other entities like the EU) to own things and enter into contracts. This exists everywhere and hasn't been controversial in centuries. Where the US deviates is the idea than an association of citizens can have "rights". The corporation, business, etc is a legal fiction created by the state and has no natural rights. But the argument goes that if individuals can spend as much as they like because of free-speech, then why shouldn't groups be allowed to work together?

Alas the US Constitution pre-dates the rise of the corporation and thus provides no guidance. But I think focussing on person-hood is missing the point, the whole problem lies in considering the spending of money as "freedom of speech".