Men are the problem
Men are the problem
I have been wearing skirts and kilts now for a few years with no issues, and I live in the country. The more I think about it, and the more I think men are the problem! Men are too scared, afraid. No wonder there is a problem with men in this society. If more men would wear skirts and kilts, skirts for men would become a very common thing very quickly
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I think it has a lot to do with that unwritten society rule that men are not manly if they wear skirts or any female clothes.
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I think that is an accurate description. I know that in my city of maybe 15-20,000 people. There is probably only ONE guy out in public in a skirt ...... ME. The reason I say that is because i have Never seen another man wearing a skirt. On ONE occasion I saw a fella wearing a Utilikilt. That was at some ComicCon deal, and in another part of the country.
Now with that observation, I would say that there are some of those 15-20K who wear at home only .
I agree with the OP in as much that we are our own worst enemy sometimes. We definitely need to get some more guys out of the house and in the mix while wearing their skirts.
Just my thoughts. Yours may differ.
RG.
Now with that observation, I would say that there are some of those 15-20K who wear at home only .
I agree with the OP in as much that we are our own worst enemy sometimes. We definitely need to get some more guys out of the house and in the mix while wearing their skirts.
Just my thoughts. Yours may differ.
RG.
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Men wouldn't be the issue if we had the confidence and support of supposedly "liberated" women. I'll have a lengthy rant on that soon.
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Yep. No law against it, so I'd have to agree, the only thing stopping a man from wearing a skirt is his own mind. "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself!"jeanfor wrote:I have been wearing skirts and kilts now for a few years with no issues, and I live in the country. The more I think about it, and the more I think men are the problem! Men are too scared, afraid. No wonder there is a problem with men in this society. If more men would wear skirts and kilts, skirts for men would become a very common thing very quickly
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I belong to another group not to do with skirting, but I've told them I wear skirts and asked for comments, negative or positive. I've only had comments from the ladies (wonder why) but everyone of them have been good, hell knows why but some even better than good. It does seem that a bloke in a skirt does something for them.
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Pretty much that. Men are fearful of being looked upon as wussies or gay if they're not decked out in flannel shirts, baggy jeans and Timberlands while sporting a month's worth of scruff on their faces and chugging down beer at a football tailgate, yadda, yadda, yadda. Well, I proudly wear skirts, women's tops and high heels in public and still maintain my masculinity. Clothes do NOT define my being man, never have, never will.tbryant2k12 wrote:I think it has a lot to do with that unwritten society rule that men are not manly if they wear skirts or any female clothes.
I don't want to LOOK like a woman, I just want to DRESS like a woman.
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Probably worthy of a separate thread but chimes in with things said here.
Today, I went into London for a couple of events in my Asos "mandress" (really it's an extremely long cardigan but we can argue semantics another time).
No comment from virtually anyone apart from one man who has employed my talents in the recent past. He said, "You are rocking that look!" Can't quite remember what I said back, but afterwards realised that I should take compliments at face value and said "thanks!" - that way, he would have felt better about saying something positive to me. Sometimes, I feel that I'm not helping myself in these situations!
Today, I went into London for a couple of events in my Asos "mandress" (really it's an extremely long cardigan but we can argue semantics another time).
No comment from virtually anyone apart from one man who has employed my talents in the recent past. He said, "You are rocking that look!" Can't quite remember what I said back, but afterwards realised that I should take compliments at face value and said "thanks!" - that way, he would have felt better about saying something positive to me. Sometimes, I feel that I'm not helping myself in these situations!
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Don't obsess about it. I'm sure you were just being yourself.renesm1 wrote:...He said, "You are rocking that look!" Can't quite remember what I said back, but afterwards realised that I should take comipliments at face value and said "thanks!" - that way, he would have felt better about saying something positive to me. Sometimes, I feel that I'm not helping myself in these situations!
But do have a strategy for next time.
Courage, conviction, nerve, verve, dash, panache, guts, nuts, balls, gall, élan, stones, whatever. Get some and get skirted.
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I'd call that comment a "win".renesm1 wrote:No comment from virtually anyone apart from one man who has employed my talents in the recent past. He said, "You are rocking that look!" Can't quite remember what I said back, but afterwards realised that I should take compliments at face value and said "thanks!" - that way, he would have felt better about saying something positive to me. Sometimes, I feel that I'm not helping myself in these situations!
It's worth recalling that a polite "Thank you." costs precisely nothing, and can confer large benefit later on. Also, if one has time on hand, a quick chat can also be beneficial for all involved. After all, if one is dressed entirely unconventionally, shyness should not really be an issue.
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Agreed, it shouldn't be an issue, but it often is.crfriend wrote:... if one is dressed entirely unconventionally, shyness should not really be an issue.
Overcoming the initial trepidation of skirt-wearing is difficult, but even then there's an ongoing trepidation to contend with. "Bringing it off," means conquering both.
Courage, conviction, nerve, verve, dash, panache, guts, nuts, balls, gall, élan, stones, whatever. Get some and get skirted.
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Despite my innate shyness, I have never found it difficult to continue a conversation while skirted. If someone else starts I will happily engage with them. The same is not true of me when out and about in those uncomfortable duo-tubes.Caultron wrote:Agreed, it shouldn't be an issue, but it often is.crfriend wrote:... if one is dressed entirely unconventionally, shyness should not really be an issue.
Overcoming the initial trepidation of skirt-wearing is difficult, but even then there's an ongoing trepidation to contend with. "Bringing it off," means conquering both.
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Once I get going... I don't stop.
As far as my reply on the occasional compliment..... my standard issue is a "thanks" and sometimes give the two finger "peace" sign while walking by.
As far as my reply on the occasional compliment..... my standard issue is a "thanks" and sometimes give the two finger "peace" sign while walking by.
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In my own experience and that's all that I can relate, other men have been the least "comfortable" with my skirts.
Guys, whom I have known for years and present themselves as liberal and broad minded have all but stopped talking to me.
The best reactions that I have seen are from total strangers and those that are on the "margins" of society have been the most accepting and outwardly supportive.
I have reached some conclusion, guys build a shell of "outward normality" so readily that anything that challenges it is seen as a "threat".
That would include any other guy who chooses to wear a skirt. Add to that a personal perception of me as an individual that has now been proven to be skewed and they don't seem able to cope.
I'm not apportioning any "blame" on any individual, I'd lay that at "society's" door.
However, I do find it tiresome that some guys just don't "grow-up" and take responsibility for their own attitudes.
I'm not at all shy in the "discussion" stakes, I was a salesman for too long for that yet not one of them have even vaguely tried to enter any conversation with me regarding my skirts.
By contrast, I had an awesome and quite lengthy conversation with two "random" people today that may result in a convert.
Realistically, I wouldn't gamble on it but I did give them a lot of food for thought and we parted on very amiable terms.
As for female support, my wife and daughter's antipathy are well documented in the Cafe. I have many female friends and acquaintances, friends have earned my trust and I haven't had to "lose" one yet.
Acquaintances, male or female, if they didn't gain my trust when I was in trousers, they sure as hell don't qualify due to my skirts.
I'm guessing I've digressed somewhat!
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Guys, whom I have known for years and present themselves as liberal and broad minded have all but stopped talking to me.
The best reactions that I have seen are from total strangers and those that are on the "margins" of society have been the most accepting and outwardly supportive.
I have reached some conclusion, guys build a shell of "outward normality" so readily that anything that challenges it is seen as a "threat".
That would include any other guy who chooses to wear a skirt. Add to that a personal perception of me as an individual that has now been proven to be skewed and they don't seem able to cope.
I'm not apportioning any "blame" on any individual, I'd lay that at "society's" door.
However, I do find it tiresome that some guys just don't "grow-up" and take responsibility for their own attitudes.
I'm not at all shy in the "discussion" stakes, I was a salesman for too long for that yet not one of them have even vaguely tried to enter any conversation with me regarding my skirts.
By contrast, I had an awesome and quite lengthy conversation with two "random" people today that may result in a convert.
Realistically, I wouldn't gamble on it but I did give them a lot of food for thought and we parted on very amiable terms.
As for female support, my wife and daughter's antipathy are well documented in the Cafe. I have many female friends and acquaintances, friends have earned my trust and I haven't had to "lose" one yet.
Acquaintances, male or female, if they didn't gain my trust when I was in trousers, they sure as hell don't qualify due to my skirts.
I'm guessing I've digressed somewhat!
Steve.
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Re: Men are the problem
One of my work colleagues admitted to me one day that he was so used to relating to someone in a skirt as man to woman, that he had problems knowing how to relate to me in a skirt - though he was very encouraging and told me not to stop wearing them.
I believe that there's a subconscious response from many men that goes along the lines of "a person wearing a skirt is female and therefore someone who can stir me in a sexual way, so I'm not happy if I see a man in a skirt and get the same sort of reaction because of the skirt."
I believe that there's a subconscious response from many men that goes along the lines of "a person wearing a skirt is female and therefore someone who can stir me in a sexual way, so I'm not happy if I see a man in a skirt and get the same sort of reaction because of the skirt."
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