In all seriousness how do you sit?

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At least you are mindful of an issue that never came up wearing pants or shorts. Yes, you do have to be aware of your posture; usually having legs or ankles crossed is how I sit, but at times I have noticed that I have to keep applying a little pressure to bring the legs together, which is slightly tiring after several minutes. For example, on the subway I can't extend my legs to cross ankles, and crossing legs makes one leg extend a bit too far, so I sit with legs together. With a longer skirt (mid-calf), having legs spread a few inches doesn't matter in the least.

The important thing is to be aware of your appearance and show others that you have good skirt etiquette and decorum.
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partlyscot wrote:I must be built differently from you, I have no issue sitting with knees together, or even legs crossed. I used, to be able to sit knees crossed, but that is no longer comfortable.
My theory is pelvic width. My oldest brother has a visibly wide pelvis and can sit with knees crossed. No way I could sit like that. I do have a "thigh gap" in the right clothing, but my hip sockets just don't swivel that far before my "boys"are in a bind.
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skirted_in_SF wrote:...I'm sitting just like that at my computer desk. I'm not too worried about exposure as my skirt is full and 31" long, I'm facing a wall and I'm the only person here.
Sounds safe enough. Just be careful of mirrors in case the phone rings. (sorry, couldn't stop myself...)
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I'm not able to cross my legs like a lady does at the knees. I do cross them at the ankles however. I'm trying to do more sitting with the knees together without crossing them as I'm hoping that it is a learned posture that will get easier the more I do it.
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Perhaps I am lucky. I find (and sometimes marvel at the fact) that my genitals slip and slide into suitable positions quite painlessly, however I place my legs, close or crossed -- provided I am not wearing trousers; of course.

I have also noticed that, when seated, the flesh of my thighs gets flattened by the pressure of the seat and they come into contact even when my knees are apart (and, let me add, I am neither deformed nor obese), which means that in the unlikely event of someone bending down to knee level to have a look, my genitals and/or underwear remain hidden from view. But I do avoid sitting with one ankle crossed over the opposite knee, when in public.

I wonder if we sometimes worry a little too much about flashing. A man sitting with his legs stretched out and wide apart is advertizing himself just as much as a man who happens to show his underwear. The difference is solely in the amount of leg uncovered, not the amount of genitals.

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Couya wrote:Perhaps I am lucky. I find (and sometimes marvel at the fact) that my genitals slip and slide into suitable positions quite painlessly, however I place my legs, close or crossed -- provided I am not wearing trousers; of course.

I have also noticed that, when seated, the flesh of my thighs gets flattened by the pressure of the seat and they come into contact even when my knees are apart (and, let me add, I am neither deformed nor obese), which means that in the unlikely event of someone bending down to knee level to have a look, my genitals and/or underwear remain hidden from view. But I do avoid sitting with one ankle crossed over the opposite knee, when in public.

I wonder if we sometimes worry a little too much about flashing. A man sitting with his legs stretched out and wide apart is advertizing himself just as much as a man who happens to show his underwear. The difference is solely in the amount of leg uncovered, not the amount of genitals.

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Guess I just have to practice more when it comes to crossing my legs, and try to get used to it. Some skirts require a fair bit of managing, some you always have to adjust your hemline when you get up, some of my 21 inch pencil skirts are fine when I am standing up, but almost halve in size when I sit. I try to find skirts that are fairly snug at my hips rather than my waist, they generally behave themselves thru the day (my pet peeve is when your skirt clings to your tights because of static, but half slips help with this) and stay generally at my knees even when I cross my legs. I hate pencil skirts that leave that horrible crease just below your tummy if you've either had to lift it to go to the toilet or have been sitting for a while. I think denim keeps its shape well.

as regards unintentional flashing when uncrossing my legs, if someone accidentally catches a glimpse of my underwear I don't let it bother me too much. Sometimes it cannot be helped. TBH these are all mannerisms men have to learn, I try to just act like it's fairly natural to me. :)
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When I wear a malong, I find sitting down no different from sitting down in pants, and I can even sit with my legs spread wide apart without showing any underwear at all.
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Gordon wrote:I'm not able to cross my legs like a lady does at the knees. I do cross them at the ankles however. I'm trying to do more sitting with the knees together without crossing them as I'm hoping that it is a learned posture that will get easier the more I do it.
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The fact that most of us have not grown up from childhood wearing skirts makes it necessary for us to be a bit more aware of our posture. Women do it quite naturally and one is lucky to see any flashes of underwear even with very short skirts (lucky might be a poor choice of word).
Sitting at the computer I have my feet crossed which prevents the knees from drifting too far apart - not that anyone could see anyway but nice to know that it is a natural posture. One sees some men sitting at cafes (in trousers) as if they have just dismounted from a horse - actually around here they might have.
I now habitually go down on one knee to pick objects up off the floor.

Pleated skirts work well in that they hang straight when standing but there is enough material to drape when sitting. I have also been concious of the side view when sitting in a mini as they show a lot more upper leg - may be no more than some shorts I used to wear in hot weather but with shorts there is a physical limit, or pain threshold, that prevents them riding up too far.

I am thankful that modern cars have the door hinges to the front so that the door can sheild much of the view when getting in or out, which the old suicide doors didn't do, because that can be quite a challenge to maintain any sort of decorum; even in a Land-Rover where one is not sitting low but the skirt can get hooked up sliding off the seat.

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I have a simple 'two-word' answer.......
Very Carefully
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This question came to my mind again late this afternoon.
It has been warm (for San Francisco - upper 70s/low 80s F) so I was wearing a knee length cotton skirt that is only slightly flared. I had taken a load of wash to the laundromat to dry and sat in a chair while the dryer ran. There was another person sitting about 20 feet away and facing so I paid attention to how I was sitting. As you all know, a knee length skirt becomes above knee length when you sit. :shock:
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A lot of factors come into play with sitting:
Starting of course with what one is wearing - mini - midi - kilt - knee - calf - ankle - pleated - fabric density/lined - color or patterned
Then what one is sitting on or in - subway/light rail seat - picnic bench - folding chair - chair at dining table - office chair - chair in a living or family room -
recliner - rocker - lounge chair etc.
An amusement park swing is just another radical form of sitting
The direction one is orientated - directly open in front or a modesty panel/shield (office desk) or table cloth cover (dining table) etc.
Finally how one is able to constrict or perform advanced manipulation of the body structure - crossing legs at thighs - knees - ankles - and the compression of
the legs together squeezing out the light of day

Put it all of these variable components together and one is either covered fully or partially but never totally on display
Wearing something less than knee length - beware the exposure zone
Wearing something less than or at thigh length - plan on damage control
Careful about throwing caution to the wind - walking up stairs/steps - riding an escalator - open atrium glass elevator
Bending at waist to pick-up something - squatting or crouching on a knee is best
Darker under garments are preferred reducing the FLASH potential
As much as skorts are frowned upon by most of the forum members - they are the best defensive garment

There will always be a chance of a glimpse of a critical zone in the initial act of sitting and then resuming the standing position.

But mankind in general sure makes a big deal about what has been going on naturally for eons - while man is a walking animal
he occasionally sits bends squats and makes movements which expose a lot of himself - get used to it !

Of course then there is the comedy of - "I see London - I see France and I see some one's under xxx " :lol:
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As a naturist, I find all the trouble we go to to accommodate people's gymnophobia amusing, but sad.
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Personally, I'd go along with the careful and mindful school of thought.
Simple fact, we are all under some scrutiny whether we like it or not!
If we present a "careless" attitude to the perceived rules of skirt decorum, it will do nothing for our cause.
Something I've noticed lately though, lots of females don't sit "easy" in a skirt either. They will also adopt the "spread eagle" approach when in trousers.
Sexist, you bet, but apart from some furtive glances, nobody will be in the least bit bothered.
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STEVIE wrote:Personally, I'd go along with the careful and mindful school of thought.
Simple fact, we are all under some scrutiny whether we like it or not!
If we present a "careless" attitude to the perceived rules of skirt decorum, it will do nothing for our cause.
Something I've noticed lately though, lots of females don't sit "easy" in a skirt either. They will also adopt the "spread eagle" approach when in trousers.
Sexist, you bet, but apart from some furtive glances, nobody will be in the least bit bothered.
Steve.
I think the best way is observing what women do and just do likewise, no matter what type of skirt you wear. Frequently on Twitter girls lament about not being able to 'sit like a man', or conversely there's those girls that do sit like a man regardless of their skirt... :shock: It is becoming more natural that I sit knees together or legs crossed at knee or ankle when skirted. You will naturally be more vulnerable in a skirt and at risk of accidental exposure from time to time, but it just goes with the territory. Darker or thicker tights also reduces the risk of flashing knickers inadvertently, I still have to learn how to gracefully get out of a car though.

I think over analysis isn't good, just get out there and be skirted...

Also, found this which has helped me (at least some elements )

http://m.wikihow.com/Sit-Like-a-Lady

though my natural posture is similar to this girl...
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with my feet slightly apart but feet turned in. Though she doesn't look too comfortable, I generally feel fine like this.
everyone just has to find their own way in this subject

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