Difficulties with partners

General discussion of skirt and kilt-based fashion for men, and stuff that goes with skirts and kilts.
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I guess that Mrs. K and I have reached a kind of compact that really takes the form of "don't ask, don't tell".
She is well aware that I leave for work and return each day skirted. I change at home, that is my chosen compromise.
She is also very well aware that our wider circle of friends and family all know about my preference.
What she feels about this simple fact, I have no idea, "don't ask".
Some time ago I did "tell" that I had encountered one of her oldest and closest friends one lunchtime. That was met with a frosty response so not repeated.
Since then there has been several more, only one, a distant relation, made any comment on the skirt. That comment was quite supportive.
How much of this has been "fed back" to Mrs K, I have no idea, "don't ask".
As I see it, she is aware, there are no secrets. She cannot be in any position to complain if she receives any comments about my skirts.
I actually doubt that she would tell me if she did, good or bad.
Some may find this hard to believe, but it is working, not perfect, but what is?
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LGG wrote:
Caultron wrote:You have to be yourself because, like, who else could you be?
Someone else!? I've been someone else many times, trying to "fit in", be loved, liked, etc etc. Sad but true. I just didn't know any better til later in life, much much too late in life.
Ive been what society wanted me to be my entire life..... and Im still a social zero with no real friends.... so I finally figured.... if im going to be a social outcast anyway... why not just be who I am?
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Quite unlike many of the regular contributors to this Forum I count the blessings bestowed on me/us over the years by MOH and any amount of argie-bargie is still well worth it.

We have a Dynasty of 12 individuals who range in ages from 44 down to 2 and all of whom walk this Earth because of how MOH & I have been blessed.

On the social front one makes friends through social activities mainly and also through work. People become lasting friends because they like you and vice-versa. A large portion of our social circle was developed through MOH's activities as well as my own, and invitations tend to come for both of us as a couple.

We enjoy entertaining and our guest lists tend to be all couples, with just the odd single person.

Meeting the public as I do prefessionally I cannot shirk the profile I hold there. Perhaps when I retire I can fade into the background, but for now.....

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I'd go halves with Kirbstone on this.
I have no regrets over my marriage and two great kids to show for it. That I would never change, even if I could.
However, I do take exception to her attitude towards my choices as they are today. She was well aware before we wed that I had certain preferences clothes wise and chose to give it a "tacit acceptance".
That has been a recurrent theme regarding my skirts down the years. We can communicate, co-exist and even socialise quite happily as long as the dreaded s**** word does not arise.
I wear the skirts as I choose, she ignores them, indifference can actually be bliss.
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Reading all this makes me feel so very lucky that both my wife and daughter support me completely in my skirt wearing, at least this part of my life is uncompleted. I really do hope more of you someday get the same support from your families. Perhaps someone might ask there partners to start a forum in support of skirt wearers other halves, hope that makes sense.
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hairy wrote:Reading all this makes me feel so very lucky that both my wife and daughter support me completely in my skirt wearing, at least this part of my life is uncompleted. I really do hope more of you someday get the same support from your families. Perhaps someone might ask there partners to start a forum in support of skirt wearers other halves, hope that makes sense.
How lucky I am in this.
Maybe start a forum for momen as to the difficulties of wearing trousers :D
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Gusto10, That remark of yours is priceless on several levels of humour. I love the English language as it is so rich in the way in which meanings can be discerned whether intentional or not. :D :sofnny:
I believe in offering every assistance short of actual help but then mainly just want to be left to be myself in all my difference and uniqueness.
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Gusto10 wrote: Maybe start a forum for momen as to the difficulties of wearing trousers :D
I like this idea, but most the women I have seen have absolutely no problem wearing them. However I so sometimes think there might be more use for a forum to encourage them to re-connect with the pleasures of skirt wearing.

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johnb wrote:[...] I so sometimes think there might be more use for a forum to encourage [women] to re-connect with the pleasures of skirt wearing.
Ah, but then we'd be considered sexist!

There is no winning that argument. If women are to cast skirts aside as "obsolete" garments, then it's up to us an men to take up the slack (singular, there, mind!). You know, "Waste not, want not." and all that.
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My 4 sisters, all female siblings, lady friends, hairdesser, to cut short ALL the women I know wear pants.
The only one I know wearing skirts is a man, ME!
One nephew living in Austria has a kilt for special occasions such as a marriage or my funeral.
I consider myself the lucky one, especially in hot conditions.

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janrok wrote:My 4 sisters, all female siblings, lady friends, hairdesser, to cut short ALL the women I know wear pants.
The only one I know wearing skirts is a man, ME!
One nephew living in Austria has a kilt for special occasions such as a marriage or my funeral.
I consider myself the lucky one, especially in hot conditions.

Jan.
Isn't that the sad truth? Sometimes my daughter wears a dress, but that's about it. Otherwise, I am skirted far more than any female I know!
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Depends where you are. This summer in Spain, it has definitely been a back-to-skirts trend -- for women, at least. It has been unusually hot, and the light colorful skirts and dresses that had been forgotten at the back of the wardrobe have reappeared. Men have not followed suit into non-bifurcation, but shorts are shorter than ever!
It will be interesting to see if there is the same trend in France when I go back next month. Very few young women wore skirts in France in recent years, but there too it has been exceptionally hot this summer, so perhaps things will have changed.
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As we are going on holiday I have decided to buy some new tops. I looked at the men's singlets or vests and they all had mottos on them so I rejected them as I just wanted plain ones. Of course I found what I wanted on the other side of the aisle and at half the price of the men's. As far as I could see in shape and so on there was little difference. MOH agrees on this point. But still, as far as she is concerned, because I were a skirt, tights, ear rings and have long hair I am a tranny. But she agrees that long hair and ear rings are apt for both sexes. But she did bring up the point that I wore jewellery in both ears years before it became fashionable for men. I just said that that was because I was so far ahead of the herd and was a leader of fashion and not a follower. I also said that I was ahead of the fashion in skirts as well and it would become more accepted for men to wear skirts. She then complained at why she should be the one to be married to one who was the only man around wearing skirts and being the odd one. She is so entrenched in her illogicality.
I believe in offering every assistance short of actual help but then mainly just want to be left to be myself in all my difference and uniqueness.
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I needed to go out last night to get some money out of the cash machine and I was wearing a short yellow skirt and a dark blue football top. Now admittedly it was dark out and there would be few people about but even so MOH didn't raise any objections at all even though it as obvious was wearing a skirt. To say my ghast was well and truly flabbered would be an understatement. No sarky comments at the time. This just a one-off? Time will tell.
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Sinned wrote: But she agrees that long hair and ear rings are apt for both sexes.
Interesting that it wasnt long ago that this too was considered queer. (Applying the classic definition of the word). All it takes is enough people doing it and suddenly its no longer a big deal!
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