"much ado about nothing?"

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Maybe we do go in for the analysis a bit over much but I find it useful. In one way it's educational to learn from a sector that have been wearing skirts openly for a few years. What they do to cope with the vagaries of the skirt, how they walk, cope with winds and even how they deal with the occasional flash of underwear ( mainly just ignore it ). I also need to know what is considered girly so that I can avoid that as I don't want to emulate that aspect. Conversely I like to hear of the experiences of others so that I don't make the same mistakes and to reinforce and give confidence in what I am doing. So I find the analysis worthwhile and can forgive if sometimes the same things get repeated.
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Hello

Sorry I've not posted back before now I have been under the weather the last couple of days with an old complaint.
Thanks for the responses through the posts I have picked up on at least two things acting on our beliefs is a priority and so is communication among us. For many who are contemplating wearing a M.U.G. of some kind a site like this one may well prove the tipping point between thinking and doing. Someone pointed out that our forum is an invaluable source to learn the nuts & bolts of skirt wearing as well as helping with style choices and I agree as long as it does not take the place of the act of mug wearing itself. In short Skirt Cafe' and others like it are valid and valueable. Being overly fussy and verbose about our clothing choice is not. I further believe that doing so can actually build resistance to acceptance of our freedom to wear skirted garments. To much talk can signal that ones commitment is not strong and is laced with timidity.

When I contemplate what the ladies were able to achieve without near the resources that we have at our disposal I am amazed and humbled and it is a mystery to me that we have not won more ground than we have with the advantage we hold. I believe that we have gained ground most certainly we are not where we were back in the days when Tom's Cafe' was in it's infancy and that's well done indeed!
I thank the ladies as they pioneered the way and I thank those intrepid men who went before and made the statement that skirts, and kilts could and should be a part of a man's wardrobe.

Finally as I close this post after all is said and done the Cafe' bears one important message and even though it may sound trite it is real and needed it is that where-ever one is be it near other skirtonians or distances away we are not by ourselves, there are others.

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Indeed, without the support, encouragement and wisdom of those here on this forum I certainly wouldn't have the confidence I have to resist MOH and wear skirts when I do. I thank you all.
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Martin, you may well have been the only man in Morocco in a skirt, but there would have been plenty of men in dresses.
Keep on skirting,

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Sorry, Alastair; I disagree.
A skirt or a dress, to qualify as a mug, should not be worn with trousers -- note our reactions when we see the two combined by some poop-singer trying to look trendy!
Moroccans and just about everyone else in Africa or the Near East wear trousers. The fact that they have a long open garment covering their trousers does not put them in our ranks.

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I recently wrote :
I'm probably the only regular male skirt-wearer in a 1000 km radius,
but I have already proved to be wrong. A friend in Madrid sent me this photo taken at a trade fair --
FITUR.jpg
... another friend told me he'd just seen another kilt wearer not 500m from my flat. He had a suitcase so was probably just off the day's flight from Scotland.

A trend?

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Couya wrote:...A friend in Madrid sent me this photo taken at a trade fair --
... another friend told me he'd just seen another kilt wearer not 500m from my flat. He had a suitcase so was probably just off the day's flight from Scotland.

A trend?
I sometimes tell people that skirts for men are an emerging micro-trend but who knows?
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I suppose it depends on the requisite number to qualify as "micro". That could be just two or more.
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Yeah, I know. "Emerging micro-trend," just sounds so much better than, "something almost nobody else is nuts enough to do."
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My wife in jest suggested I was transgendered. I replied that I am simply the principal instigator of a micro-trend. :D
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dlln, I think that I'll use that one on MOH. Thanks.
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wsherman wrote:Does our talk overpower our practice or to put it as the Bard Do we make "much ado about nothing"? After all it is just a bit of clothing, right?
It all depends on how often one goes around on the roundabout or simply gets off the roundabout.

Talking, discussing certainly helps others to realise it is OK and gives their confidence a boost. It also allows others to bounce questions but it does, to me, come a time that talk can create "much ado about nothing"

At the end of the day if you have the belief to stand up for what you believe in and it is legal, do it. If you haven't got the confidence, talk to those that do and aim to leave the roundabout in a decisive direction, yes or no. Quite often too much talk can confuse the issue & contradictory statements enter the arena.

Women seem to have gone past the discussion and 'what if' era for their changes in society expectations. They make a stand, and often these days a well orchestrated stand with many in far flung corners. Men don't and seem to continue as individuals and pontificate. Perhaps the expression 'man up' could apply here!
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Yes it is a very good point and TBH I think I'm guilty of too much talk about it, even to the wife. Perhaps we all need to get with it, but then again I wonder who will do the talking then.
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I believe things have changed. You see more men skirts coming back with fashion designer, some in the show business and Hollywood do wear skirts, people in general get more exposed to seeing pictures of men in skirts, on facebook, pinterest. I know quite many men who like the idea but have not made the jump yet, and many women who like the idea and wish more men would wear skirts. I think men at the end of the 20th century and at the beginning of this century are timid and too often just afraid, afraid to impose something different. I have to say that women are more vocal and have made more progress in fashion because they don't care what people think.
If you want to make a difference it is important to share those new ideas, pictures and stories with your male friends. They may not follow you right away but if you keep at it by wearing your skirts, someday they will go for it! It is a little bit like evangelism. You do not convince people by talks but by action!
Skirt wearing for me has become natural and I don't make a big deal about it. I wear kilt like skirts, pleated skirts and sporty kilts because I like to wear those.
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