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Re: Christian MEN Wearing Skirts

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Darryl wrote:

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I thought that looked like RPG, and it gave me flashbacks -- unpleasant ones. Nowadays, RPG stands for "Rocket-Propelled Grenade" which is a big win over "Report Program Generator". I'll take the latter over the former any day of the week; they're much more useful. Given a choice of slinging JCL all day or RPG (the former definition) I'd choose JCL in a heartbeat.

The other stuff was recognizable as well.

I tend to do most of my heavy-hitting these days in C, Perl, or PHP, with an occasional (Bourne!) shell-script thrown in for good measure. Given my penchant for "elder iron" I do have to stay up on a raft of assemblers and every once in a while get to do pretty deep dives into operating-system code for assorted reasons (which were all written in assembly "back in the day") which keeps me nice and close to the iron.
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Re: Christian MEN Wearing Skirts

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crfriend wrote: I tend to do most of my heavy-hitting these days in C, Perl, or PHP, with an occasional (Bourne!) shell-script thrown in for good measure. Given my penchant for "elder iron" I do have to stay up on a raft of assemblers and every once in a while get to do pretty deep dives into operating-system code for assorted reasons (which were all written in assembly "back in the day") which keeps me nice and close to the iron.
Since I've used VBA/VB6 since it was released, as well as Access and Excel I get to do a lot of VBA and database work. I keep trying to move to SQL Server and C# but with little luck. A bit here, a byte there.

Love PowerShell. Lets me do a boatload of admin tasks without firing up a GUI and I can do pretty much anything I would have used C# and .NET for.

Don't know if they did it on purpose, but a very large Christian healthcare organization I'm doing a project for (Access and VBA) has the workstation totally locked down. Can barely breath on it, much less work. While I can't get to a normal Windows command-line or the Run command or Task Manager...I can get to Powershell. :D I did a dumb thing and went into an endless loop in my VBA...rather than hard-boot the computer I typed Get-Process "MSACCESS" to get the ID, then Stop-Process -id xxxx and problem solved. Then I needed to run the undocumented /decompile switch. Easy: Start-Process "C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\Office\MSACCESS.EXE /decompile" Anyway, don't know if they left it there for their IT people or since they run XP they may not be aware of it.

Alternatively, I can do pretty much the same thing using the VBA code Editor in Access, Excel, Word, and so on with Windows API calls. :roll:
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Re: Christian MEN Wearing Skirts

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Bringing this thread more back on topic, its always interesting how Christian painters, men and women, ALWAYS depict the Biblical ancients, and in the case of the Mormons, the Book of Mormon ancients, both men and women in their art as wearing unbirfucated garments, in the form of skirts and dresses, whether its Adam and Eve, the ancient Hebrews, Christ himself, the Nephites/Lamanites, etc. Yet how many of these same Christian artists condemn the wearing of skirts/dresses by men today? My guess, based on experience that might be more representative that I'd like would be most of them would condemn us all on this forum for the wearing of skirts/dresses as men, or in the very least frown upon it, mistakenly thinking (illogically) that we all want to be women or are gay as most tend to do without thinking about it. Many if not most probably wouldn't think of it logically from the perspective that we do that if skirts/dresses were good enough for the ancients, both men and women, then they should be good enough for current times, both men and women. I could be wrong in my guesswork, but past, current, and likely future experience leads to me to those conclusions.

Take for example these few paintings done by LDS (Mormons) artists:

1) https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... =1&theater

In this example (though scripturally not accurate since Adam and Eve didn't wear clothing in the Garden of Eden until being kicked out) both Adam and Eve are wearing dresses, both above the knee, Adams being more well above the knee than Eve's, both with a belt or sash, and both with cap sleeves.

2) https://www.lds.org/scriptures/bc/image ... mage-5.jpg

Prominent in the front is a man wearing a wrap skirt, almost kilt like minus the pleats, with a sporran type of bag on the side.

3) https://www.lds.org/scriptures/bc/image ... mage-7.jpg

This is perhaps the best depiction of Lamanite and Nephite men and women wearing skirts and dresses alike, in bold, bright colors.

4) https://www.lds.org/media-library/image ... 9?lang=eng

The Angel Moroni wearing what is essentially a dress, linguistically.

5) https://www.lds.org/media-library/image ... 7?lang=eng

6) https://www.lds.org/media-library/image ... 9?lang=eng

The Book of Mormon was named after the ancient prophet named Mormon who abridged (edited and summarized) the many books/writings of various ancient inhabitants of the Americas descendant from migrants who came over from the Biblical Old World. Here's Mormon depicted wearing a maxi skirt (can't tell if its a wrap skirt or not), bold and bright in color with bold, bright embroidery and tassels on the hem (or the skirts of his skirt).

It's an odd world we live in, with odd cultures and odd societal beliefs. Human beings, for as many great achievements they have under their belt, are fickle and illogical creatures much of the time. Such is life in an imperfect world, where fear drives many, if not most to reject harmless, logical ideas, and sometimes persecute/kill the messenger.

As a religious believer, I'm convinced now as ever that there is absolutely nothing wrong with men wearing skirts/dresses, and that the most tenable reason we have people who believe they are transgender, believing they are actually the other sex/gender is because society has for so long pounded illogical and arbitrary gender rules into their heads, and if one goes against those gender rules, they are ridiculed and said they can't do that because of their gender. No wonder individuals who like things associated by society with the opposite sex tend to believe they are actually the opposite sex trapped inside whatever sex/gender they were born just so they can express their likes without unjust condemnation/ridicule by that same unjustly judging society. Routinely tell a young boy he can't wear dresses or skirts because they are for girls, then if his desire to wear skirts and dresses due to his natural liking them ever leaves him, of course he's going to jump to the wrong conclusion that he must want to be a girl and will believe it and transition just so he can exercise his actual gender neutral likes/dislikes. The same goes with women, although to a lesser extent as we know.
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Considering how Euro-Aryan Jesus and his congregation were depicted in these paintings, I would not be surprised if, had the artist had the influence of the even more repressive religious views of today's Christian Conservatives, his depictions might have included trousers.
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Re: Christian MEN Wearing Skirts

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You could have something there Dlln, since the recent Russell Crowe incantation of Noah and the flood had trousers galore and the audience is so brainwashed that they don't notice the incongruity!
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