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FOOD - is it the number 1 killer in the world?

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:soapbox:

I'm not trying to sound crazy but Jamie Oliver's TED Award speech
from 2010 should make people stop and think about how to fight
obesity as it is the number one killer in the world.

I'm a good example of what NOT to do. I need to get back to cooking
proper meals instead of getting fast-food. The costs of cooking at home
versus eating out is about equal. What is different is the time involved.
I weigh around 275 lbs but I should weigh no more than 200 lbs for my
height and age.

If I can start to lose weight then my health will improve and I'll have a
better selection of clothes to fit into instead of looking at "PLUS" sizes
all the time.

Yes I'm ranting a bit :!: BUT we all need to consider what we eat can
make and keep us healthy or kill us quicker. A friend of mine lost 75 lbs
and is no longer considered a diabetic. Her health as greatly improved.

I just turned 63 years old this month and I MUST START A DIET OF
PROPER FOODS
so I'll be around when my grandson's graduate college.
(They're 8 & 5 years old now.)

Thanks for letting me rant a bit so I'll put away the :soapbox: now :D

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Uncle Al wrote: :soapbox:

I'm not trying to sound crazy but Jamie Oliver's TED Award speech
from 2010 should make people stop and think about how to fight
obesity as it is the number one killer in the world.

I'm a good example of what NOT to do. I need to get back to cooking
proper meals instead of getting fast-food. The costs of cooking at home
versus eating out is about equal. What is different is the time involved.
I weigh around 275 lbs but I should weigh no more than 200 lbs for my
height and age.

If I can start to lose weight then my health will improve and I'll have a
better selection of clothes to fit into instead of looking at "PLUS" sizes
all the time.

Yes I'm ranting a bit :!: BUT we all need to consider what we eat can
make and keep us healthy or kill us quicker. A friend of mine lost 75 lbs
and is no longer considered a diabetic. Her health as greatly improved.

I just turned 63 years old this month and I MUST START A DIET OF
PROPER FOODS
so I'll be around when my grandson's graduate college.
(They're 8 & 5 years old now.)

Thanks for letting me rant a bit so I'll put away the :soapbox: now :D

Uncle Al
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I agree with you 90%, at 52 years old and with my knees giving me a lot of pain and impeding my movement over the last few weeks, I also need to get a lot of weight off me. Where I disagree is (maybe in the UK only) about pricing. Cooking and eating at home should be a fair bit cheaper than eating out all the time. Living alone as I do that does mean cooking in quantity and freezing the excess because trying to buy single portions is an expensive way to buy ingredients.
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I remember this from days of old and it could be adapted by replacing bread for food.

Bread Kills!

1. More than 98% of convicted felons are bread users.
2. Fully half of all children who grow up in bread-consuming households score below average on standardized tests.
3. In the 18th century, when virtually all bread was baked in the home, the average life expectancy was less than 50 years; infant mortality rates were unacceptably high; many women died in childbirth; and diseases such as typhoid, yellow fever, and influenza ravaged whole nations.
4. Every piece of bread you eat brings you nearer to death.
5. Bread is associated with all the major diseases of the body. For example, nearly all sick people have eaten bread. The effects are obviously cumulative:
a. 99.9% of all people who die from cancer have eaten bread.
b. 100% of all soldiers have eaten bread.
c. 96.9% of all Communist sympathizers have eaten bread.
d. 99.7% of the people involved in air and auto accidents ate bread within 6 months preceding the accident.
e. 93.1% of juvenile delinquents came from homes where bread is served frequently.
6. Evidence points to the long-term effects of bread eating: Of all the people born since 1839 who later dined on bread, there has been a 100% mortality rate.
7. Bread is made from a substance called “dough.” It has been proven that as little as a teaspoon of dough can be used to suffocate a lab rat. The average American eats more bread than that in one day!
8. Primitive tribal societies that have no bread exhibit a low incidence of cancer, Alzheimer’s, Parkinson’s disease, and osteoporosis.
9. Bread has been proven to be addictive. Subjects deprived of bread and given only water to eat begged for bread after as little as two days.
10. Bread is often a “gateway” food item, leading the user to “harder” items such as butter, jelly, peanut butter, and even cold cuts.
11. Bread has been proven to absorb water. Since the human body is more than 90% water, it follows that eating bread could lead to your body being taken over by this absorptive food product, turning you into a soggy, gooey bread-pudding person.
12. New born babies can choke on bread.
13. Bread is baked at temperatures as high as 400 degrees Fahrenheit! That kind of heat can kill an adult in less than one minute.
14. Most bread eaters are utterly unable to distinguish between significant scientific fact and meaningless statistical babbling.
15. In light of these frightening statistics, we propose the following bread restrictions:
a. No sale of bread to minors.
b. A nationwide “Just Say No To Toast” campaign, complete celebrity TV spots and bumper stickers.
c. A 300% federal tax on all bread to pay for all the societal ills we might associate with bread.
d. No animal or human images, nor any primary colours (which may appeal to children) may be used to promote bread usage.
e. The establishment of “Bread-free” zones around schools.

Don't try and analyse the logic behind this - it's so absurd. But I do believe that our reliance on processed high fat high sugar foods full of preservatives, flavourings and colourings are really gad for us. Even our fruits and vegetables have had most of the things that made them good bred out of them. Has anyone noticed how the flowers that you can buy, particularly roses, have no scent nowadays. :( :shock:
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Hi B & B :D
Big and Bashful wrote:I agree with you 90%, at 52 years old and with my knees giving me a lot of pain and impeding my
movement over the last few weeks, I also need to get a lot of weight off me. Where I disagree is
(maybe in the UK only) about pricing. Cooking and eating at home should be a fair bit cheaper
than eating out all the time. Living alone as I do that does mean cooking in quantity and freezing
the excess because trying to buy single portions is an expensive way to buy ingredients.
I fully understand :!: Now, it's just my wife & I. Cooking for two is almost as troublesome
as cooking for one. When we get groceries, I split up the meats/poultry into smaller portions
before freezing them. I use a crock-pot to make soup and chili.
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Also does a good job with pot-roast and veggies. It helps keep the heat down in the kitchen
as I don't have to use the oven (also costs less to use than the oven ;) ).

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Actually, common sense helps a lot. About 13 years ago, I went from 310 lbs to 180 lbs in 18 months. I did it by:
1) Trying as much as possible to eliminate all post dinner snacking
2) Eating meals I prepared myself at home instead of take out pizza, ribs, and Chinese.
3) Lots of fish, lean pork, and lean beef
4) Replacing almost all butter with extra virgin olive oil and reducing cheese to the occasional treat
5) LOTS and LOTS of veggies, which meant I had to learn how to give veggies flavor
6) No desserts. Ever.

But here's the biggie - EXERCISE.

I started out by walking 2 miles a day and graduated to alternating a 3 mile run with 90 minutes in the gym, with 45 minutes of cardio and 45 minutes of strength training.

The exercise is as important as the diet.

I had a wake up call when I was diagnosed as a Type II diabetic. The weight loss and increased exercise has taken care of that. I haven't had a bad blood sugar reading in over 10 years. My weight has migrated up a little to about 200 lbs and I only go to the gym 3-4 days a week these days but I'm healthy.
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Be careful what you say about bread!
I like bread and eat large quantities of it (multicereal and organic when possible) and I remain SLIM.

On the other hand, although the idea of taxing bread at 300% would upset me deeply, it could be good for many other people. If bread were regarded, because of its price, as a luxury, perhaps it would be recognized as food (as it has been for millennia) and not just something to wrap round your hamburger to keep your fingers clean.

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I can relate to this issue, Al. I have lost a bit over 100 lbs from my highest weight, and still have about 45 more to regain my weight as a college freshman. I have to fight to shed every pound now, but I feel better than I have in a dozen years. My back, knees and feet rarely hurt any more, and my stamina has improved radically. I just got back from the gym, and I have become a calorie counter. Getting most of the carbs out of my diet, and limiting portions of fats and proteins is also part of the regimen. And I cant remember the last time I ate any significant amount of bread. But I can wear size 16 skirts now, lol, and thst is really nice to be able to find stff that fits comfortably. By the way, my gym has one of the AbCoaster machines and it actually works.
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alexthebird wrote: 5) LOTS and LOTS of veggies, which meant I had to learn how to give veggies flavor.
Eh?
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200 pounds? 56 kilos? Any chance of someone quoting their weight properly, in stones? :lol:
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skirtyscot wrote:
alexthebird wrote: 5) LOTS and LOTS of veggies, which meant I had to learn how to give veggies flavor.
Eh?
The secret that nobody'll ever say anything about is that the best way to cook veggies (that is if you feel the need to cook 'em in the first place) is to flash them, usually in a steamer, and to never overcook them because: (a) they'll turn to mush and (b) will lose most of their actual food value.

I grew up positively hating vegetables mainly because my dear grandmother (whom I bear no ill will towards whatsoever!) habitually overcooked them into mush and I had "texture issues" with the results, not to mention what the taste was like. I never experienced properly-done veggies until Sapphire encouraged me to eat some that she'd cooked (this was two and a half decades ago, mind) and they were astoundingly good. I owe her a debt of gratitude for that, absolutely.
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Yes we ALL eat to much and often the wrong food, most of us also exercise too little. Weight loss is about food intake and exercise.

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Same here, Carl. Thanks for saving me the effort of typing all that!

Once When Hazel and I were at my parents for dinner, I offered to help and got the job of preparing the runner beans. Then I asked how long Mum wanted to boil them. 15 minutes, she said. Bleurgh! How about 5? So we did an experiment. Two pans. Three portions in one pan (my father went for the 5 minute beans - taking a chance if you ask me) and one portion in the other. The difference between the green and the grey beans was huge - colour, texture, flavour - and the green water left in the 15 minute pan showed where the lost goodness had gone.

Roasting works very well too, for root veg mostly but also tomatoes and peppers.
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Overcooked or barely cooked; what a dilemma!
A wife that does not like the firm crunchy veg that I prefer -- that's worse even than a wife that does not approve of kilts!

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Interesting topic, guys and some really praiseworthy weight-loss tales as well.

Talking about food killing you, you can survive about forty-odd days without any, depending on how fat you were to start with, but you can only survive a few days without water.

I have so far managed to survive over six dozen years mostly on a staple of Irish brown soda bread, which is baked without yeast and uses sodium bicarbonate as its rising medium. For the last 48 of those years (since I was 24) my weight has fluctuated wildly between 13st. 3lbs & 13st 10 lbs....83-87Kilos and this shocking weight gain & loss has been repeatedly verified on the sort of apparatus that country folk here use to weigh pigs at crossroads..........first place the pig at one end of a see-saw plank, cast around among the adjacent stone walls for a stone that exactly balances the pig, then guess the weight of the stone!

That'll please SkS, as the weight there would be expressed in 'stones'

Don't believe Martin Couyalair that he is slim.....he photoshops all his pics & pigs out on bread all day long!

Oh Btw., I claim that the best cooked veggie in the World is to be had right here on this little Island. I have just spent two days away in a country hotel in Co. Waterford and boys-oh-boys, did they feed us well!.....Not vast quantities, mind, but what they produced was to 'die' for, & certainly was not lethal.

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MOH and I eat a lot more vegetables now that we've started steaming them. We prefer vegetables that still have a bit of crunch in them and it's easier to get that with steaming than boiling. As a diabetic I find losing weight hard as I can't just stop eating ( that completely puts my insulin regime into chaos mode ) but fortunately my stomach seems to have shrunk so I can't eat as big meals as I used to be able to. I cycle around town where I can. York is in a valley and fairly flat so there are few steep gradients to cope with. I was up to 14 stone at one stage but I'm now down to near 13 stone and I want to go beyond that.
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