no skirts with children?

[Caultron]

Here are some grat paintings by that paragon of traditional Americana, Normal Rockwell:

[Caultron]

[couyalair]

Nice pics, Caultron, but -- don't forget -- kilts are not skirts !
ha ha ha ha.

Martin

[Sinned]

I agree with Cylr on this. The pictures are all of kilts which are a special case and acceptable and I think even MOH would agree to me wearing a kilt. Maybe. But logic on wearing a skirt around children seems to fly out of the window on this one. MOH seems to fear the opinions of others more than anything, something that doesn't bother me. I have been out for a couple of shopping expeditions and had very little response to my wearing a knee length denim skirt. But I do find it difficult to really talk to MOH about it. She seems to go all defensive and starts talking about separating which really upsets me. She knows it does which is probably why she does it. But dare I try and call her bluff - probably not. As for around the children I have two issues. My youngest son is going through a court battle with his ex-wife about custody of his children. She lives a long way away and is so antagonistic that she is trying to cut off all contact he has with his children. There is a court case to try and resolve issues next week. Of course, even though she is hundreds of miles away and she doesn't have any friends up here it is unlikely that she would know anything about my skirt wearing but I don't want to give her anything to bring up in the court case. So I am not allowed to wear a skirt around these two grandchildren. My granddaughter is also very forthright so if she did see me in a skirt she would probably let this information out to her mother. I understand this. I don't see that unconventional dress would psychologically damage young children. They are accepting of a lot of unconventional behaviour. My brain hurts.

[Caultron]

Yeah, you probably need to be very careful around child custody hearings. Those often involve factors that are marginal at best.

[Sinned]

Yeah Cltrn, You don't know the half of it. I do understand and my son is considering whether to go for full residency. We have received a copy of a CAFCAS ( Children And Family Court Advisory And Support Services ) report and it makes disturbing reading about his ex-wife. The whole situation makes walking through a minefield seem trivial because it is the lives and upbringing of children that's at stake here. We are doing a lot of thinking and soul-searching here. One of the few situations where my skirts definitely takes second place. Still we may have a bit more clarification after the court case next week.

[Caultron]

I wish you, your son, and your grandchildren the best possible outcome in court.

Isn't it interesting that we support gay marriage, civil unions, single parents, gay parents, two working parent, and a host of other practices said to tear down families and marriages, while at the same time basing custody battles on who can provide the most 1950's-style traditional upbringing?

Like, the way a grandfather dresses should make a difference?

Especially when meanwhile, psychologists and courts are defending the rights of school-age transvestites and transsexuals.

What a crazy world!

[Sinned]

The phrase involving asylum, running and inmates seems ti spring to mind. Applies in lots of areas apart from this. How many times have you read a "you couldn't make this up."

[ufash]

I remember when my s/o's teenage daughter asked her mother to ask me not to wear a skirt when her schoolmate's mother would visit us ...

In my experience, teenagers are often closer-minded that younger children or mature adults.

[partlyscot]

Gah! I don't have kids, and not likely to at my age, and that of my SO. If we did though, there would be many concerns, but NONE about her considering the welfare, ( all aspects, including encouraging a very empathic and accepting nature ) of the child. Thus, if we did split, the divorce negotiations would revolve around fair treatment, and the welfare of the child. Can't stand people who use children as negotiation ploys.

I remember when my s/o's teenage daughter asked her mother to ask me not to wear a skirt when her schoolmate's mother would visit us ...

In my experience, teenagers are often closer-minded that younger children or mature adults.

The good news is that in some places it's changing. My SO has had a hand in the development of several groups of girls, the other day, she was having a discussion with one group, about gender issues, one said "my genitals and what i do with them is nobodies business but mine, and whoever I'm dating" at a later point, my GF told them that "I have a good friend, and he sometimes wears womens clothes" the response? "Oh, Cool!"

[BobM]

Yeah Cltrn, You don't know the half of it. I do understand and my son is considering whether to go for full residency. We have received a copy of a CAFCAS ( Children And Family Court Advisory And Support Services ) report and it makes disturbing reading about his ex-wife. The whole situation makes walking through a minefield seem trivial because it is the lives and upbringing of children that's at stake here. We are doing a lot of thinking and soul-searching here. One of the few situations where my skirts definitely takes second place. Still we may have a bit more clarification after the court case next week.

Yeah. Well.

The courts have long since ceased being about justice and are now mostly concerned with political correctness.... Just sayin'.