Conversation about skirts at Art class

[timemeddler]

Look around, things haven't changed all that much in the last 200,000 years. We're still a species of monkey brains.

Matters how?

[Elisabetta]

There have likely been issues, you just don't know about them.

Obviously, but what you don’t know doesn’t harm you.

I thought the purpose of this forum was to encourage fellow male skirt wearers to go out and face their fears of wearing skirts in public with positive stories. Your reply seems a bit negative. I am fully aware of that ridicule behind my back which was the main reason that stopped me from going out dressed in skirts and dresses. I have conquered those fears and I don’t really care what they think. I feel more comfortable dressed that way.

Without contradicting what I wrote above, one fear I have and I am having a hard time conquering and is likely to happen is getting my photo taken by a member of public without me knowing and it being put on social media for laughs and ridicule. Paranoia is a *****. It makes me angry that I cannot enjoy what I find therapeutic and that is wearing comfortable skirts, leggings and dresses in public without those negative thoughts in my head.

His reply is being truthful not negative. In honesty when you step out for the first time in a skirt there's always someone around snickering or poking fun of how ridiculous you may look. I know this first hand because I'm moons wife and have seen it. The purpose of the forum is to share expirences and to be honest about skirt wearing. That includes the bad sometimes. While we all encourage each other to just go for it we also prepare them for what may come and our advice on how we've handled it.

[denimini]

The purpose of the forum is to share expirences and to be honest about skirt wearing. That includes the bad sometimes. While we all encourage each other to just go for it we also prepare them for what may come and our advice on how we've handled it.

Yes we can certainly learn from each other about all situations.

[DrFishnets]

His reply is being truthful not negative. In honesty when you step out for the first time in a skirt there's always someone around snickering or poking fun of how ridiculous you may look. I know this first hand because I'm moons wife and have seen it.

Yeah I know he was being truthful even though I found it a bit negative. I appreciate members warning others of negative experience to be prepared. However, a strange thing happened to me today and talk about synchronicity and coincidences with talking about negative experiences on this thread but my first negative experience (that I know about) happened when I was in a busy shopping centre today. I was wearing a T-shirt dress and black tights with doc martens and a trench coat and a bunch of teenagers started shouting and laughing when I walked past them. I just smiled and shook my head and ignored the narrow minded little bigots. Strange things synchronicity and coincidences.

[crfriend]

Yeah I know he was being truthful even though I found it a bit negative. I appreciate members warning others of negative experience to be prepared.

The world is getting more negative by the day, so it's likely best to get used to it.

What we're up to here is not for the faint of heart. One needs a will of iron and brass cajones to pursue it properly and to shout down all naysayers -- and there will be plenty. Worst of all are the ones who you find attractive and might want to pursue a relationship with. Those are the hardest to deal with.

Be prepared to spend your life as a lonely one.

[DrFishnets]

The world is getting more negative by the day, so it's likely best to get used to it.

What we're up to here is not for the faint of heart. One needs a will of iron and brass cajones to pursue it properly and to shout down all naysayers -- and there will be plenty. Worst of all are the ones who you find attractive and might want to pursue a relationship with. Those are the hardest to deal with.

Be prepared to spend your life as a lonely one.

That’s why I am lucky to have a relationship with a woman who supports me and understands my liking for wearing skirts, dresses and feminine clothes. I also know other people who are okay with it. However, I am a loner who keeps himself to himself and it doesn’t bother me as I know other people are bigoted and not worth knowing anyway. As for dealing with negativity I just laugh back in their faces as long as it doesn’t lead to physical violence. The older I’ve got the less I care what others think.

[Grok]

There has been a change, but it is superficial and it's tolerance.
Sure, we are tolerated, most of the time no one gives a damn, occasionally, there is a glimmer of interest, the art teacher for instance,
What really hasn't changed very much is the level of acceptance and I see no indication of that changing anytime soon.

Stages:

1. Intolerance. The mildest version-people encouraging you to conform.

2. Tolerance. Others choose to leave you alone. Due to indifference, or just can't be bothered.

3. Acceptance. The highest level would be being accepted for romantic relationships.

[Faldaguy]

There have likely been issues, you just don't know about them.

Obviously, but what you don’t know doesn’t harm you.

I thought the purpose of this forum was to encourage fellow male skirt wearers to go out and face their fears of wearing skirts in public with positive stories. Your reply seems a bit negative. I am fully aware of that ridicule behind my back which was the main reason that stopped me from going out dressed in skirts and dresses. I have conquered those fears and I don’t really care what they think. I feel more comfortable dressed that way.

Without contradicting what I wrote above, one fear I have and I am having a hard time conquering and is likely to happen is getting my photo taken by a member of public without me knowing and it being put on social media for laughs and ridicule. Paranoia is a *****. It makes me angry that I cannot enjoy what I find therapeutic and that is wearing comfortable skirts, leggings and dresses in public without those negative thoughts in my head.

I suspect quite a few of us may have had our pictures taken, unbeknownst to us, and few have probably been posted -- but when you scout the net for pictures of men in skirts; there are thousands simply presenting said image without comment or content of concern; and so far as I've seen, none mocking, though I'm sure there must be some if you look far enough -- which seems to suggest it is not a big deal, and it may well be just one more example of promoting MIS.

Know, too it is almost inevitable that your image has been caught on numerous security cameras, and within a larger group or scenery shot -- and again, it could have been used and even then the odds are so infinitesimal it hardly seems a worry. Furthermore, the chance any such posting would be seen by anyone who could recognize you are very long odds too. There are thousand things daily with far worse odds that will harm you; so, go-forth, enjoy and let your confidence shine. It will garner a lot more reward that way than frets over trifles.

[Spirou003]

Stages:

1. Intolerance. The mildest version-people encouraging you to conform.

2. Tolerance. Others choose to leave you alone. Due to indifference, or just can't be bothered.

3. Acceptance. The highest level would be being accepted for romantic relationships.

If we want to be optimistic we can add one more stage:
0. Rejection. The mildest version-people forcing you to conform or run as hell.

[STEVIE]

Acceptance. The highest level would be being accepted for romantic relationships.

As far as I am concerned Grok, that is the acid test.
Human attraction occurring because the guy wears a skirt, and not "in spite" of it.
I'll stop there because I feel a rant coming on.
Steve.

[Mouse]

I have been stopped a number of times in London, by people wanting to take my picture. Every time I have agreed, totally surprised that someone wants a picture of me! This never happened in all the years I was in trousers. A couple of them were photographers taking “street” art, and one has me on her instagram pages, but a closeup, so you can’t see the skirt.

I take the view that I am interesting, and therefore not boring. Some people obviously don’t like how I dress, many don’t care, some like, and a few want pictures.

[DrFishnets]

I take the view that I am interesting, and therefore not boring. Some people obviously don’t like how I dress, many don’t care, some like, and a few want pictures.

Thats exactly how it is with me. Some people don’t like the way I dress like the example yesterday in the shopping centre when a bunch of teenagers laughed when I walked past them but this was the first time I’ve experienced this negativity and no doubt more negative experiences will follow with or without me knowing then there are the many who don't care and the some who really like what I wear like the girl at university, my art college tutors and my partner who all praised my skirts and dress tastes.

My art tutor and partner praised my confidence and finding my identity and told me I’m doing really well considering I am not a very confident guy and I have an anxiety disorder.

[Mouse]

My art tutor and partner praised my confidence and finding my identity and told me I’m doing really well considering I am not a very confident guy and I have an anxiety disorder.

I think that I have become a much more confident person since I have been wearing skirts in public. Part of this is the simple fact that you are no longer just going to "fit in". You have deliberately made yourself interesting, so some people will naturally want to engage with you. This you can embrace or run away from. By deciding to front up to whatever confronts you, you immediately get a bucket of self confidence on the outside, even if on the inside you are questioning the whole thing and thinking trousers may be OK. I think the more you do this, the easier it is. Having worn skirts everyday for the last few years, I now don't think much about going out in a "standard" skirt. When I am trying something new, I still have thoughts, but normally they are inquisitive, rather than fearful. I also now love meeting new people, since I am fascinated how they will take me.

I am not medical, but I would guess that an increase in confidence and enjoyment of simple life things like going shopping, will sort out any anxiety disorder?

[STEVIE]

When a group of Scots guys met in Stirling all those years ago, not one of us, especially me could have foreseen where we'd be today.
At that time, I was still in counselling for anxiety and depression myself and the train trip, return, was in trousers.
Since then I have been all the Scottish cities and several English ones too, became full-time skirted at work and play, even appeared on the front cover of a national newspaper magazine supplement on this very subject.
I couldn't begin to count the conversations which I have had about my fashion choices and I look forward to having a hell of a lot more in the future.
Just remember, my very first MIS outing lasted for about two minutes maximum and I was disgusted with myself.
I practiced, gave myself a good telling off and practiced some more, every day it got better, and my confidence/comfort zone grew.
The rest, as they say, is history, not if I will wear a skirt, but which?
Here's my other "acid test", it works for me and those who choose to accept, I don't consider the rest as worthy of my attention.
Take heart, my own example is the greatest encouragement that I can give.
Steve.

[Mouse]

I was on Regent Street today in my normal working in a skirt outfit and I got stopped by three Swiss girls with cameras doing a street project. They asked to take my picture, just a head and shoulders picture. I smiled as you do and a picture was taken. As I said before, this never happened when I was wearing trousers.