A rather odd medical appointment

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Earlier this week I needed to undergo a exercise ECG test.

Over new year I apparently I had a heart attack, only a small one (so small I never noticed), but after feeling unwell for a few days and many blood tests later it's clear that my heart had thrown a bit of a wobbly at some point. So hospital time was needed to fix it, two stents later I was packed off home to recover.

I have mentioned before I drive those big red London buses. As a result of the heart attack our licencing authority (the DVLA) tells me I have to prove my fitness to drive by completing an exercise ECG (basically a treadmill test while wired up to an ECG machine and blood pressure monitor). You need to complete 9 minutes as the treadmill gets faster and steeper. to be honest it's really hard work when you are as unfit as me! it's also not very comforting when your appointment letter warns you of the possibility of death if your heart is not up to it!.

This is my 4th test as I have to do one every time I renew my bus licence (previous heart conditions), normally I just pop down to my local hospital but for some unknown reason I have to travel into the centre of London to a private clinic in Harley Street (if you are not familiar with Harley Street it's the poshest end of the market for medical care in the UK). The appointment letter says I need to wear loose clothing for the test, so a skirt it is then :D I choose a lightweight grey denim pleated one, not too short but a few inches above the knee. The waist is perfect so I don't need a belt and it's not too loose, matched with a black sleeveless men's fitness top.

A short walk to the underground station and off into town, I find it really amusing that the cardio department is on the 3rd floor (just to warm up your heart ready) It's one of those old Victorian terrace buildings that are like a maze inside. I'm not a big fan of those retrofit tiny lifts that these places have so up the stairs. I get there over an hour early as I gave myself plenty of time in case of any public transport issues but all goes well, I get offered coffee in a big comfy armchair while I'm waiting. I'm used to a hard plastic seat in a packed waiting area as I sit well past my appointment time at my local NHS hospital. 45 minutes early the doctor invites me in with a warm handshake. He talks to me like I have known him all my life and proceeds to tell me off for drinking Pepsi Max while he reads the label without actually telling me why I shouldn't be drinking it :shock: so there I am shirtless as he places all the ECG wires to my chest (I forgot that you need to do the test shirtless because of all the wires). So onto the treadmill in my short skirt (it feels like a micro skirt with no shirt on) and not much else.

The doctor puts the blood pressure sleeve on my arm but to my surprise it's not a digital one but the old type that you have to pump up manually, after pumping up the sleeve and taking a reading he pulls the zip down on the side of my skirt and pushes the rubber pump bit into the pocket, except it's not a pocket, it's a skirt and this one has no pockets! So now I have my hip on display and my skirt only staying up by a press stud above the zip as the test starts. The doctor sits to my left and chats for a bit before becoming engrossed in his mobile phone, he asks if I'm Scottish and I just reply by saying it's a skirt and not a kilt and I'm not Scottish. He goes back to his phone until the machine beeps to announce it going to get faster and steeper, I step up a notch as it speeds up while Dr goes back to his phone. This happens throughout the test.

I manage the full 9 minutes quite easily this time (my last test was a killer), and while I'm being unplugged and I get dressed he askes if it's ok to be philosophical as he nods to my skirt, "of course" I reply genuinely interested in other peoples views. The Dr then proceeds to tell me that I should be proud to wear a kilt being from somewhere near Scotland (I'm English through and through) but that I shouldn't wear skirts because of my children and that they will not get invites to friends because I wear skirts and that I should think of my children first. I found this amusing as my kids are most supportive and don't give a hoot about my skirt wearing. He bid me farewell with another warm handshake.

After the test I had another appointment with a different Dr at another posh clinic at the opposite end of Harley Street. Apparently the Dr doing the test couldn't sign the paperwork I needed and this needed to be done by a specialist cardio consultant. This has to be the poshest waiting room I've been in, another Victorian terrace building with big comfy sofas, complementary fruit and bottled water. No fluorescent strip lights here but a HUGE chandelier if the centre of ceiling with large table lamps on bespoke tables dotted around. After a wait I'm called to see the doctor and taken down to the basement to a small room with no windows to see Dr number 2. He gives me a clean bill of health, signs the paperwork and sends me on my way.

Back on the underground home musing on what a strange experience that was. I passed the test which was what's important, but still.... :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Sorry to hear about your heart condition! If you are wondering, the general issue with pop/soda is that it isn't great for your kidneys, and with heart disease you want all those organs working as good as possible, as some heart meds impact the kidneys, and in general, there's a linkage between kidney function and blood pressure. I'm not saying pop's a killer - but in general moderation is key. I haven't done a ton of research on this - so would recommend reading up on it further.
victor1964 wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 8:59 pm I manage the full 9 minutes quite easily this time (my last test was a killer), and while I'm being unplugged and I get dressed he askes if it's ok to be philosophical as he nods to my skirt, "of course" I reply genuinely interested in other peoples views. The Dr then proceeds to tell me that I should be proud to wear a kilt being from somewhere near Scotland (I'm English through and through) but that I shouldn't wear skirts because of my children and that they will not get invites to friends because I wear skirts and that I should think of my children first. I found this amusing as my kids are most supportive and don't give a hoot about my skirt wearing. He bid me farewell with another warm handshake.
I couldn't help but LOL at this. Partly because he insisted you were from Scotland after you told him you weren't, and partly because he wasn't being philosophical. Philosophical would be "Does a skirt make a man different?", he was just straight up being a busybody. Or perhaps "philosophical" means something different from my version of the word. But yeah, glad you were amused - nothing to get offended at, and maybe you would open up his mind/thinking a bit if you were able to have a brief conversation.
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So glad you passed the test!! :hooray:

As for the Doctor, I wonder what he was doing on the phone all that time. It seems to me he was not at all interested in you or the test you were taking. I would have called him out on it. But I am not on the medical service that you are on, since I live in the USA and not in posh street London.

Again I am glad you did great on the test and can go back driving those double decker buses. I have ridden in one here in the states at a park where they have them giving free rides to park goers. I think they are fun to ride in but I am not too sure about having to drive one.

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Victor good luck and stay well with the heart condition. Also good news that you passed the test. Compared to the equivalent brushes with the medical services by members in the US your Harley Steet experience was near perfect.

Very interesting encounter with the doctor and his philosophical question. It wasn't very philosophical though was it? More of a it's ok to wear a kilt, but don't wear skirts they are for women and you are not a woman are you? Also wearing one could encourage boys to wear one and they just get bullied and you dont want that do you?

Often I feel that wall around men is huge. We can achieve some personal acceptance in a "he's like bit like that" sense. You are then let though the wall through a tiny side gate. You are not going to be let though the main gate. That is firmly locked and has been for many, many years. If MIS are going to be recieve general acceptance then the main gate needs to be opened.

Anyway, I often go on my travels around London in skirt it's the one place I get zero bother. Does TFL allow male bus drivers to wear a skirt at work and would you if you could?
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Hi Victor

Yeah I am really glad to hear that you are okay too.
I have actually heard that we can have many minor heart attacks and strokes without actually noticing.
One very good reason that MOTs are a good idea for humans too.
On the skirted front, I have never visited Harley Street nor a private doctor of any kind for that matter.
However, I have had more contact with the NHS than I might have wished for.
Not once have I been questioned outright on my attire in any way.
I rather like your comment about the kilt and that has been my experience too.
New phrase, we have misgendered, now we have miskilted and I'd certainly have no qualms about correcting the error.
Back to the medics, I have an appointment on Wednesday for a pre-op assessment. Not expecting any skirt comments but I wonder if there will be anyone there who might remember me from previous visits.
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Very intriguing story Victor. I had a similar test and as you did I interpreted the loose and comfortable clothing as a skirt. I wore a denim mini and the lady assistant tugged on the hem and said "very good". Later she asked if I played the pipes. What is it with people? Man + skirt = Scot?
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denimini wrote: Sun Apr 30, 2023 1:22 pm Very intriguing story Victor. I had a similar test and as you did I interpreted the loose and comfortable clothing as a skirt. I wore a denim mini and the lady assistant tugged on the hem and said "very good". Later she asked if I played the pipes. What is it with people? Man + skirt = Scot?
Wonder what she meant exactly by the "very good"

Deep is the kilt = Scott. Man + skirt= Scott

Nova Scotia is Latin for New Scotland.

Maybe we should start referring to our skirts as Nova kilts. Especially when we encounter people that can't seem to grasp that's it's not a kilt.
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About 13 years ago i had multiple mini heart attack's, but didn't realize it at the time. I was working at the time, and got tired in the middle of the day. This was a Thursday. I want home, and did my second job on Saturday, with a bit more chest pain. I felt better as I rested over the weekend. Monday came and back to work. The pain came back. I called my Doc, explained the situation, and he asked me a couple questions. Then said "I want to hear the door close behind you, on the way to the ER!" 5 hours in the ER with an Nitro glycerin pack on my chest, to get my heart rhythm under control, the worst head ache I ever had. Needed an MRI done, but the hosp. wasn't equipped with 1. So an ambulance ride to a second hosp. Mind you this all started at about 4 pm on Monday. After the rest was done and diagnosed with a heart blockage. This hosp. couldn't do the surgery. So a second ambulance ride to 3rd hosp. At 2 Am Tuesday morning I was in the OR and getting 3 stints put in. Was discharged from the hosp. on Wednesday morning.

I now do the stress test every other year, with all the wires, And BP cup connected. The doc talks to me constantly through the whole test. It's his way of monitoring me. I hate that fricking thing, and curse every time I have to do it! Every time I say I'm going to stop it early, but I never do. When the tread mill stops, you must immediately get of, lay on your side, so the tech can take pictures, while holding your breath. She's very good at getting the pics. As I'm doing the test, a mile of paper print out is being generated. The doc looks at the results, and smiles and says everything is working just fine. :D

I've not had any problems since. Telltale signs of an episode are, shortness of breath, mild pain in the left arm and chest, tiredness. My next appointment is in July, and I'm going to be comfy and wear a skirt!
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Fred in Skirts wrote: Sun Apr 30, 2023 12:11 am So glad you passed the test!! :hooray:

Again I am glad you did great on the test and can go back driving those double decker buses. I have ridden in one here in the states at a park where they have them giving free rides to park goers. I think they are fun to ride in but I am not too sure about having to drive one.

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Hi Fred, the buses are quite easy to drive, it's other road users that are the problem. They just do not seem to realise the amount of space you need to negotiate London roads. You are probably aware that UK roads are not the widest and down residential roads, where bus routes tend to go, can be rather tight. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Barleymower wrote: Sun Apr 30, 2023 6:46 am
Anyway, I often go on my travels around London in skirt it's the one place I get zero bother. Does TFL allow male bus drivers to wear a skirt at work and would you if you could?
Wearing a skirt to work is not a TfL Issue. I actually work for RATP which is the French version of TfL, and we operate buses on behalf of TfL, Apart from a former (female) manager who told me I couldn't wear a kilt if I was driving I've had no problems whatsoever. There is a pic of me on the forum stood by my bus in my kilt. I have some navy golf skirts that I wear often in the summer and since my heart attack have been in the office and wear skirts most of the time. It's now reached the point where if I turn up in my uniform (I don't need to wear uniform in the office), I get asked repeatedly where my skirt is :lol:

I don't wear kilts much now, they are just too heavy! much prefer a light cotton or denim skirt. :D

I still have some colleagues who struggle with the concept of it not being a kilt, it's really amusing to correct them and tell them it's ok to call it a skirt. I think they don't want to offend me by calling it a skirt.
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stephanie53 wrote: Sun Apr 30, 2023 7:25 pm ..Needed an MRI done...,... getting 3 stints put in.
Hiya Stephanie,

Glad to hear you've got your heart sorted too...

Probably the worst experience I've had was a stress MRI, strapped in to a head vice and into the MRI tunnel. Then injected with something that makes your heart go nuts! it felt like I was having another heart attack and was unable to move. The Doctor keeps telling me to stay still while I felt like I was dying! don't want to do that again.

I've now got 4 stents, only needed 2 to sort out the narrowed arteries but the locations meant 2 more were needed to stabilise arteries around the stented ones. Just amazing what did through a tiny hole in my wrist, I'm in awe of what surgeons can do :shock: :shock:
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victor1964 wrote: Mon May 08, 2023 8:07 pm
Barleymower wrote: Sun Apr 30, 2023 6:46 am
Anyway, I often go on my travels around London in skirt it's the one place I get zero bother. Does TFL allow male bus drivers to wear a skirt at work and would you if you could?
Wearing a skirt to work is not a TfL Issue. I actually work for RATP which is the French version of TfL, and we operate buses on behalf of TfL, Apart from a former (female) manager who told me I couldn't wear a kilt if I was driving I've had no problems whatsoever. There is a pic of me on the forum stood by my bus in my kilt. I have some navy golf skirts that I wear often in the summer and since my heart attack have been in the office and wear skirts most of the time. It's now reached the point where if I turn up in my uniform (I don't need to wear uniform in the office), I get asked repeatedly where my skirt is :lol:

I don't wear kilts much now, they are just too heavy! much prefer a light cotton or denim skirt. :D

I still have some colleagues who struggle with the concept of it not being a kilt, it's really amusing to correct them and tell them it's ok to call it a skirt. I think they don't want to offend me by calling it a skirt.
That's great news that you go to work in a skirt. I've been working from home since the pandemic so it's not a problem. But I work in construction and I would not arrive at site or the office in a skirt.
In my tarten skirt I keep getting asked what clan I'm from. I usually now say with a laugh "I'm not scottish".
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Barleymower wrote: Tue May 09, 2023 12:13 pm In my tarten skirt I keep getting asked what clan I'm from. I usually now say with a laugh "I'm not scottish".
Make up a fake clan name, city. Craft an elaborate reason “not many people know because…”
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Coder wrote: Tue May 09, 2023 12:32 pm
Barleymower wrote: Tue May 09, 2023 12:13 pm In my tarten skirt I keep getting asked what clan I'm from. I usually now say with a laugh "I'm not scottish".
Make up a fake clan name, city. Craft an elaborate reason “not many people know because…”
I'm rubbish at that sort of thing. I did it at a gig and it all got out of control with actual Scots talking to me about it.
It's also quite funny to see the look on their face when you you are not scottish. One lady said "he's keeping us guessing".
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Skirtish?
:sunny: :sunny:

When someone asks if you are Scottish.

Why no mam, no sir I'm why I'm not Scottish im skirtish.
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