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jamie001 wrote:
If women allowed to wear skirts or trousers, then you could have a discrimination lawsuit against the restaurant!
Why have we become such a litigious society? If a private business has rules, policies, etc. that you don’t like or agree with, why not simply do business elsewhere?
There is a reason why lawsuit is the appropriate action in these types of cases. If you just take your business elsewhere, the owner of the establishment that is practicing discrimination doesn’t learn a lesson. They just continue in their bigoted discriminatory ways. On the other hand, if a lawsuit hurts them financially, they will stop the discrimination and hopefully they have learned an important lesson. In addition, these types of lawsuits draw media attention which will also help to shame the establishment that is practicing the discrimination.
Unfortunately, there is really no other way to combat the bigotry. Hit them in the wallet (or purse) where it really hurts and will make a lasting impression.
An example of recent cases involve a male student in Texas being sent home from school for wearing nail polish while girls face no repercussions for wearing nail polish. Other cases involve suspending a male student from school for having long hair and not allowing him to return to school until he gets his hair cut so that it is above the shirt collar. Can you believe that this is really happening in the year 2024? I would think that we are living in 1950. Religious schools are particularly bad in this regard.
The only way to fight is legally and with negative media publicity.
The difference in these cases is that they were discriminated against by an entity of the government - which is in fact against the law. Joe - down the street, running a private business should be entitled to his opinion, just like you or I.
Why does a lesson need to be learned here? I just don’t get it. If I expect others to respect my opinion - I in turn, must respect theirs.
The other day at Walmart, I had a woman walk up to me and say she wished more men would wear kilts! Then she complimented my outfit, and went her way. I was in a Utilikilt and a T-shirt with sandals and a zippered fleece jacket, nothing special really.
Was working on my bicycle today, wearing a utility skirt...found out I needed a new part and didn't want to wait a few days to get it by mail so I drove into town to visit the local bike shop. The saleswoman remembered me from when we bought a bike a few months back and we went into the storage to verify a wheel size on the same model as mine. On the way back she pointed an elbow at my lower half and said "I bet that's perfect for riding a recumbent" and I replied that indeed it was, and I often do. Most of the time if I get a comment or compliment it's when I'm wearing a kilt, so that was nice.
Today we were helping to clear the garage at my parents prior to some repairs being carried out. I was wearing my plain black Tartanista value kilt with white Next t-shirt, grey M&S hoodie and black V-gan boots. Whilst with my sister putting some items in the street for folks to collect, two young girls (10-11?) rode by and one called out “I like your skirt.” My sister and I grinned at each other. I was glad of the natural compliment. Not sure what my sister made of it!
We took Sunday drive out to visit an indoor flea market and antique place an hour or so away. My wife wore a skirt and I wore a SportKilt hiking kilt (which is practically a skirt). Got compliments from a few different women working in the shops, which was nice. We picked up lunch there and while waiting for our order to be ready we were chatting with this older (than me) guy who was one of those types that always says hi to everyone walking by and was rather gregarious. When I got up from our table and walked to the pick-up window he sad "I didn't realize you were wearing a kilt! He's wearing a kilt! Wow! A kilt" I just looked back and kind of rolled my eyes, and he said "No, that's great, that's cool." Definitely the first time I've had a reaction like that.
I thought that if you can't wear a skirt at a progressive rock concert, then when can you wear one? So I got out a pleated mock-leather black skirt that I've never dared to wear before. Also a cropped T shirt (ditto), though I started the evening with a sweatshirt covering that. No comment at all at the concert. Walking back through the centre of Gloucester after 11 pm I had no negative feedback, and one guy on a bench who complimented my "dress". I waved a thumbs-up at him: I'm never quite sure whether such comments are serious, facetious, or sarcastic, but in this case I think it was serious, as he followed it up with a muttered comment along the lines of "yeah, it's cool" in a slightly surprised tone.
Too busy to take a photo, but I might try to post one when I'm less busy: black pleated skirt, cropped black T shirt, black ex-military boots, black fake leather jacket. Need to work on that equatorial bulge if I'm going to wear cropped tops more often, though!
Myopic Bookworm wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2024 8:48 pm
I thought that if you can't wear a skirt at a progressive rock concert, then when can you wear one? So I got out a pleated mock-leather black skirt that I've never dared to wear before. Also a cropped T shirt (ditto),
We done MB, pushing the boat out a bit further than before. Look forward to the picture.
I recently attended a friend's wedding, dressed in a Mocker style Utilikilt (no cargo pockets), regular men's shirt and tie, vest, plain black long socks cuffed under my knees, and men's wing tip shoes.
This was the second wedding in that family I had attended dressed like that, the prior was several years ago. Folks I met at the earlier wedding that I hadn't seen since remembered and greeted me warmly. I got a number of comments about my "awesome kilts" and more. The closest to a negative comment I got was a greeting of "your slip is showing," a friendly ribbing from someone I know a bit better and had slowly warmed to my kilts some time ago.
Dust wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2024 1:42 am
The closest to a negative comment I got was a greeting of "your slip is showing," a friendly ribbing from someone I know a bit better and had slowly warmed to my kilts some time ago.
See, the next time I met that person, I'd wear a slip under my skirt (regardless of necessity) and intentionally pull it lower. Memory as what it is, they might not remember their comment from before.
I wear kilts most of the time no matter where I am going. When wearing skirts I was more selective. Never near home and locations were carefully selected. Last year I threw that out the door. Went with a "I don't care" attitude. Somewhat selective on where I go but for the most part all is fair game. The only restriction was to limit it to warmer weather. I did tights with the skirt a few times in cooler weather but prefer bare legs.
Most of the skirt outings last year to were to a couple of restaurants I frequent. They know me in my kilts. So I would mix in a skirt in the summer. Never any issues. There is a little more to that story, but that is for a later post.
Now it is getting nice in my part of the world. The idea of mixing in skirts is back on the table. Today I had several errands to run. That included the gas station, grocery store, auto parts (twice). All the locations were not very busy. No one noticed as far as I could tell. The exception was the second visit to the auto parts store. It was a different store than the first. I dropped off use motor oil for recycle. I had to walk into the back room to a big tank. That took me past several employees in close proximity. There were a few quick up-down eye glances but nothing else. They were very friendly and went about their business.
A first for me this week, attended my first concert while wearing a skirt without wearing tights, finally had warm enough weather and decided to go for it! Think people noticed but no comments. Got myself a great spot right at the front by the stage and felt like any other concert, just more comfortable.
Wore a black mini tennis skirt, white and black T shirt and black trainers, an outfit I quite enjoy wearing.
