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hi thanks for letting me join they call me short pants thats because all i ware are shorts i am venturing iin to may be wareing skirts i talked to my girl friend about this she said if i did it will be on her terms i have worn kilts like parades if i do i will have to do it on her terms i really wont to i cannot imbaress her she will take me to a place so i can start she going to take me to crossdressing bar to get a better look to see i want continue i cant wait thanks short pants 1

Srry for the comment ahead of time, I just wrote an email to someone about cross-dressing and this really hits it for me.

BTW, welcome!!! this is a good place to get comfortable and share stories and all that... Ok, now to the slight rant..

Have you ever thought about telling her or saying, well you can only wear jeans on my terms, we will take you to a place where you can start wearing them and no one knows who you are?

Just a funny type of thing to say, maybe not repeat what I wrote, but it makes sense and possibly let her know all the history behind women/girls wearing jeans.

short pants 1 wrote: she will take me to a place so i can start she going to take me to crossdressing bar to get a better look to see i want continue i cant wait thanks short pants 1

Don't go there! Either physically, or mentally - unless you desire to 'look like a woman'? Is this what your girlfriend thinks you're looking for?

merlin wrote:

short pants 1 wrote: she will take me to a place so i can start she going to take me to crossdressing bar to get a better look to see i want continue i cant wait thanks short pants 1

Don't go there! Either physically, or mentally - unless you desire to 'look like a woman'? Is this what your girlfriend thinks you're looking for?[/quote

I think he is correct, DONT go there.

heavy duty

short pants 1 wrote:i talked to my girl friend about [skirt-wearing, and] she said if i did it will be on her terms

That doesn't sound very promising; how much control does she exert over you in other areas? Will you be "allowed" to express your sense of style, or be forever corralled into whatever she says?

she will take me to a place so i can start she going to take me to crossdressing bar to get a better look to see i want continue

I'll put my oar in with support for the other lads who pointed up that this is probably not what you're after. "Classic" "crossdressing" involves actively masquerading as a member of the opposite sex, which is something the the bulk of the lot here quite pointedly do not do. If that's the destination you want to reach, that's OK, but it's something that most of us here don't try for.

Finally, and I mean no insult by this, English has well-developed aids to reading including things like capital letters and punctuation marks that greatly assist the reader in interpreting the writer's meaning. Please consider using them.

First of all,
short pants 1

Second thing is, Don't Go There!


You're not into cross-dressing, as to be made to look feminine,
you just want to wear skirts--Correct? This sounds like your
girl friend has completely misunderstood you, and is trying to
embarrass you into not wearing skirts/kilts.

Your statement ' on her terms ', sounds more like she is trying to
control you, not letting you be yourself. If she feels embarrassed
that's her problem, not yours!

Does she wear trousers, pant suits, or jeans? If so, ask her how
long she has been 'cross-dressing'! This may make her stop and
think about what she is doing to you. If she responds that
she has wearing 'jeans' all of her life, and that it perfectly normal,
you should remind her that thanks to some brave women, back
in 1941-1945, paved the way for her to wear 'jeans' as a common
piece of women's clothing.

You, on the other hand, are just trying to reclaim a garment that
has been a man's garment for hundreds of years.

A Kilt is a type of 'skirted' garment, normally worn by men.
A Skirt is a type of 'skirted' garment normally worn by women.

I repeat the word 'Normally'.

The definition of 'skirt' from the Merrium-Webster's 'online' dictionary is

Main Entry: 1skirt
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Old Norse skyrta shirt, kirtle — more at shirt
Date: 14th century
1 a (1): a free-hanging part of an outer garment or undergarment
extending from the waist down (2): a separate free-hanging
outer garment or undergarment usually worn by women and girls
covering some or all of the body from the waist down b: either of
two usually leather flaps on a saddle covering the bars on which the
stirrups are hung c: a cloth facing that hangs from the bottom edge
or across the front of a piece of furniture d: the lower branches of
a tree when near the ground
2 a: the rim, periphery, or environs of an area bplural : outlying
parts (as of a town or city)
3: a part or attachment serving as a rim, border, or edging
4slang : a girl or woman
— skirt·ed adjective

This is one of the best parts - usually worn by women and
girls covering some or all of the body from the waist down

The words 'usually worn by women and girls' does not say limited to
women and girls. Men have worn 'skirted' garments through out
history.

Definition of Kilt--same dictionary--

Main Entry: 2kilt
Function: noun
Date: circa 1730
1 : a knee-length pleated skirt usually of tartan worn by men
in Scotland and by Scottish regiments in the British armies
2 : a garment that resembles a Scottish kilt

About the only difference between the two words and definition is
'pleats/pleated'. Men wore 'pleated' skirts, women wore 'non-pleated'
skirts. The bottom line is Both Men and Women Wore Skirts!

If your girl friend doesn't accept this information and still wants
to 'control you' under 'her terms'. then she is not worthy of you!

OK- is put away. and again,


Uncle Al
Duncanville, TX

Hi short pants 1, I wanted to give you my welcome to SkirtCafe as well.

I'm a little curious, how do you stay warm in shorts in the Philly winters? I know they're not as cold as New England, but it's not exactly sub-tropical either.

As you can see, we're not into cross-dressing on this board. The difference between wearing a skirt and cross-dressing is that with cross-dressing, you're trying to impersonate a woman. Classic cross-dressing involves some combination of femme names, femme voices, wigs, other fake body parts, etc.

But that's not who we are, we're not into that stuff on this board. We're just a bunch of guys wearing skirts; as others have pointed out, that is not so different from a woman wearing blue jeans. You will be surprised at how easily accepted that is, no need to hide in secret. The overwhelming experience of the guys on this board is that going out in a skirt is a "non event."

Carl wrote:Finally, and I mean no insult by this, English has well-developed aids to reading including things like capital letters and punctuation marks that greatly assist the reader in interpreting the writer's meaning. Please consider using them.

Comon Carl, talking like short pants does worked very well for "Rocky" in the movie series of the same name, IE: Rocky I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, VIII, IX, etc. etc. etc. or maybe there weren't THAT many Rocky movies, but it sure had people from Philadelphia talking just like Rocky did. "Adreeen, I wan duh kass yu oan da lipz"is a good example of the "Rocky" vernacular. Sort of "pre-ebonics/gutterspeak/gangspeak".

Short Pants 1 is simply speaking "Philadelphian"... another honorable language. Makes one wonder if our American "Founding Fathers" spoke like that too? Might have, who knows?

Short Pants 1,
I was a bit confused by your introductory message, and I hope you'll clarify your situation for me. Are you a crossdresser, i.e. trying to pass as a woman? If so, this would not be the appropriate forum to indulge your interest. If, however, you are simply a man looking to incorporate skirts and kilts (and maybe a few other things popularly regarded as apparel for women) into your wardrobe, which is what this forum is about, then welcome! You are in the right place.

Also, I must agree with Carl concerning dialog. A lot of us are middle aged men who came around before the days of stream-of-consciousness texting without a little basic grammar. If you would, please give us messages we can read without the use of methamphetamine.

Sasq

Since1982 wrote: "Adreeen, I wan duh kass yu oan da lipz"is a good example of the "Rocky" vernacular. Sort of "pre-ebonics/gutterspeak/gangspeak".

Short Pants 1 is simply speaking "Philadelphian"... another honorable language. Makes one wonder if our American "Founding Fathers" spoke like that too? Might have, who knows?

Skip, you are quite the cunning linguist! (You must make some special lady very happy.)

(Just kidding, buddy!)
Sasq

from the Scottish Borders.

As others have already said, I'd leave out the visit to the cross-dressing bar.

Probably your girlfriend has misunderstood, that all you want to do is have the option to be a guy who wears a skirt, as a guy, just as she might sometimes wear jeans.

You have to question whether she is the right girl for you if she is such a control freak that she tries to tell you how to dress.

Plenty of choices in men's skirts - traditional tartan wool kilts, modern cotton kilt style skirts, or a plain denim skirt. Denim skirts often come with pockets and with a front zipper fly which fastens to the man's side and in my experience of wearing them are preceived by others to be as unisex as jeans.

Sasq, methamphetamine? I didn't know ANYONE on this forum knew how to spell that word. I always heard it called just Meth or Crystal Ice. I give you full credit for typing the longest word in this thread. (so far) Of course I can't leave it the longest though, I like "Antidisestablishmentarianism" best. Good luck on finding a longer one. This is the longest non-medical word in the English language.

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SkirtDude wrote:Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious

... even though the sound of it is really quite atrocious!

Sorry. I couldn't resist.

Welcome to short pants 1 from Australia. Having been away, (therefore away from a computer) it is belated welcome but, I can only reiterate, unless you are intending to become a transvestite, don't go there Your G.F. sounds controlling- watch it! Most of us on this forum have only the desire to take up the right men have had for milennia to wear unbifurcated clothing. This is a right we, in the west, have abrogated in the last 200 years, but it is a right still enjoyed in Southeast Asia, North Africa and the Pacific Islands. We are different ftom the common herd and PROUD OF IT.