Why don’t more men wear skirts?

[Caultron]

...it's comical to watch those young fools waddle down the the street because of how low the waistband is, and every five to teen feet or so, they pull up the pants and carry on.

Ah, the price one pays for art.

[JeffB1959]

...it's comical to watch those young fools waddle down the the street because of how low the waistband is, and every five to teen feet or so, they pull up the pants and carry on.

Ah, the price one pays for art.

Indeed. I'm surprised idiots like them don't get laughed at, but, to the world at large, they're seen as "normal" while men who tastefully wear skirts aren't. Again, go figure.

[Sinned]

Actually crfrnd, there is far more evidence for the preponderance of oestrogen-like chemicals in the environment than testosterone-like ones. I've just googled both and the evidence is more for the former. Whereas the increase in aggression probably doesn't have a simple cause it appears that it is more due to environmental factors than chemical - the breakup of the nuclear family, violent video games and so on. Not something that I've really studied.

[crfriend]

Actually crfrnd, there is far more evidence for the preponderance of oestrogen-like chemicals in the environment than testosterone-like ones.

I was being facetious with that comment. Not everything I write is deadly serious.

[skirtingtoday]

I have also seen the following:
1. A man wearing a long shirt with a collar and buttons without a bottom (e.g., pants or skirt).
2. A man wearing basket ball shorts with a gaudy pair of pajama pants underneath.

John

I have also seen students at Oxford with black dinner jackets, white wing coller shirts and dickie bows for the upper half and surfing shorts for the lower half. When questioned, they replied that the occasion they were going to was confirmed as "smart-casual"

[Grok]

You're lucky, my friend. I live in da 'hood, and I see that lunacy each and every day. As to how they stay up, good question, but it's comical to watch those young fools waddle down the the street because of how low the waistband is, and every five to teen feet or so, they pull up the pants and carry on.

They might as well wear hobble skirts.

[JohnH]

How do those low-slung trousers stay up? A belt might help, but any movement is going to ease them downwards.

I guess one could use long suspenders but no one wears suspenders these days.

John

[crfriend]

I guess one could use long suspenders but no one wears suspenders these days.

Hence the "droopy-drawers" look. No, wait a second, that's circular logic.

The thought of braces has occurred to me on occasion with some of the very long (and heavy) skirts I have. That's one way of solving the problem of the things wanting to "go south" on my frame.

[Kirbstone]

Jack W. has the answer....Dresses!. They hang from the shoulders, are a given length from there and there they stay.......and if you ask him, you can go swimming in them, too!

For my sins I don't wear skirts past the knee, ergo they aren't too heavy and fortunately I have a hip measurement 8 inches more than my waist, so there THEY stay, too.

Tom.

[Sinned]

Sorry crfrnd, a lot of what you say is serious and sensicle ( don't know if it's a word but it just seemed the one to put in here - I do sometimes strangle the English language just for fun ) so I guess I forgot that you do have a sense of humour and that I haven't gotten used to it yet..

[skirtingtoday]

Sorry crfrnd, a lot of what you say is serious and sensicle ( don't know if it's a word but it just seemed the one to put in here - I do sometimes strangle the English language just for fun ) so I guess I forgot that you do have a sense of humour and that I haven't gotten used to it yet..

I did find "sensical" in the Wiktionary being a backward derivative from nonsensical! There is even commonsensical which I like!

Ross

[skirtilator]

Actually crfrnd, there is far more evidence for the preponderance of oestrogen-like chemicals in the environment than testosterone-like ones. I've just googled both and the evidence is more for the former. Whereas the increase in aggression probably doesn't have a simple cause it appears that it is more due to environmental factors than chemical - the breakup of the nuclear family, violent video games and so on. Not something that I've really studied.

Violent video games are just an excuse to distract from the real causes, cuz there are no evidences that violent video games increasing violent behaviour in men. Plus I can tell from experience that I didn't slaughter a kitty or my neighbour after playing violent video games for a long period of time. That is just a scapegoat approach.

But here ya go, if you wanna educate yourself:
http://cdn.media.freedomainradio.com/fe ... iolent.mp3

[pleated]

Violent video games are just an excuse to distract from the real causes, cuz there are no evidences that violent video games increasing violent behaviour in men. Plus I can tell from experience that I didn't slaughter a kitty or my neighbour after playing violent video games for a long period of time. That is just a scapegoat approach.

But here ya go, if you wanna educate yourself:
http://cdn.media.freedomainradio.com/fe ... iolent.mp3

Interesting talk (note that it is over 31 minutes long)

There is also a text version at the link below
The Origins of War in Child Abuse by Lloyd deMause
Chapter 2
Why Males Are More Violent
http://www.psychohistory.com/originsofw ... olent.html

[JeffB1959]

Actually crfrnd, there is far more evidence for the preponderance of oestrogen-like chemicals in the environment than testosterone-like ones. I've just googled both and the evidence is more for the former. Whereas the increase in aggression probably doesn't have a simple cause it appears that it is more due to environmental factors than chemical - the breakup of the nuclear family, violent video games and so on. Not something that I've really studied.

Violent video games are just an excuse to distract from the real causes, cuz there are no evidences that violent video games increasing violent behaviour in men. Plus I can tell from experience that I didn't slaughter a kitty or my neighbour after playing violent video games for a long period of time. That is just a scapegoat approach.

But here ya go, if you wanna educate yourself:
http://cdn.media.freedomainradio.com/fe ... iolent.mp3

Stop me if I'm wrong, but wasn't that same old chestnut used about violent TV shows? I'm 55 and grew up watching TV in the 60's and 70's when there were cop shows and westerns all over the place, and I didn't turn into a gun toting nutcase. If men eschew wearing skirts, it's more because of woefully misplaced machismo and the foolish stigma associated with clothing and sexual preference.

[crfriend]

Stop me if I'm wrong, but wasn't that same old chestnut used about violent TV shows? I'm 55 and grew up watching TV in the 60's and 70's when there were cop shows and westerns all over the place, and I didn't turn into a gun toting nutcase.

If anything, I rather suspect the overall level of violence on the telly has increased over the years (discounting Loony Tunes, of course) rather than decreased. Cop shows are more prevalent nowadays than in yesteryear, and the number of outright crimes -- committed by the police in such series! -- are staggering and the amount of gunplay borders on the obscene.

I know that the US army uses FPS (First-Person Shooter) games to dull the very natural tendency to *not* shoot at another person, so there may be some level of accuracy in the old chestnut, but before it gets to the point of actually pointing the muzzle at another human being something else must have gone very wrong indeed.

If men eschew wearing skirts, it's more because of woefully misplaced machismo and the foolish stigma associated with clothing and sexual preference.

That pretty well sums it up, I think. It's actually more "macho" to have the stones to stick out from the herd then to merely blend in -- and that's where a lot of guys get it wrong. If you aren't brave enough to blaze your own trail then you'll always wind up following along -- where, like on a dog-sled team, if you're not in the lead the view is always pretty much the same.