Utilikilt or Unionkilt

[ChristopherJ]

Sorry - one last word on this topic -

wintermute - You seem to be making a personal dig at me. There is no need for that. In my posts I was simply making a comment that I did not like the way in which the models on the Unionkilt website were all wearing boots - and some of them in real monster type of boots. This was just an observation - and I said that I did not see the reason for it.

From that, you keep dredging up the fact that I have worn legwarmers (in the winter! It's summer now - I haven't worn them for months - honest!); you've search back over my posts to see that I said I wanted a pair of boots and so tried to insinuate that jealously prompted my posting - and you make the comment that I was putting across a very "fem" attitude & opinion.

No - I was stating my opinion. It's not fem, it's not macho, it's not red, white or blue. It is simply my opinion.

It's also my opinion that people who feel a need to wear HUGE BOOTS to express their manliness have small dicks. But that's only my opinion - and is a subject that probably needs its own thread.

[crfriend]

From a purely personal perpective, I'm equally apprehensive about the bare top or vest look - not particularly 'hetro'?

I'm not sure what the "bare top" comment was supposed to construe (other than the wearer being bereft of garb above the waist), but if you're about to insinuate that blokes that wear vests (waistcoats) are "fem" I fear that I shall have to ask you to step outside into the parking-lot to "discuss this further".

Vests are a time-honoured male garment and have only been "hijacked" fairly recently by women. I wear vests on an almost daily basis -- in fact, it's odder to see me without one than with one on. So, I'm at least helping to keep one preserve of "male garb" identifiably male by action.

[Keith Beddoe]

cessna152towser, I notice that you wear a belt with your UnionKilt. I think that is probably a good idea as I find the press studs on the right side sometimes pop open when I sit down.
I ordered size 36 which is my waist size and it fits quite well.

I was going to order one of their belts, but when I added it at the checkout the carriage charges went up from £8.40 to £18.50, so I didn`t bother.

[Milfmog]

I am confident & comfortable enough within myself to wear a kilt in the open (even though for some strange reason some refer to it as a skirt - It isn't)

Of course it's a skirt! Albeit a subset of the general group and one that is generally sized for and associated with men.

Whether we refer to it as a kilt, a skirt or an oujamieflip it's still the same garment, just as comfortable and good to wear. The colour, length and style do not change according to what it is called and if garments had a gender I feel fairly certain that would not change either. Why worry what people call it, just wear what you want to, let others wear what they choose and enjoy life.

Have fun,


Ian.

[Departed Member]

........ but if you're about to insinuate that blokes that wear vests (waistcoats) are "fem" I fear that I shall have to ask you to step outside into the parking-lot to "discuss this further".

Tut, tut! You jolly well know the garment I'm referring to! In the UK, vests (now in decline) are normally worn 'under the shirt', waistcoats (even more rare) 'over the shirt'! :cheer: And, no, it's (tight vests) not a "fem" look , but one associated with/admired by 'gentlemen who prefer gentlemen' - or so some of our friends who follow that path have told us!

[wintermute]

It's also my opinion that people who feel a need to wear HUGE BOOTS to express their manliness have small dicks. But that's only my opinion - and is a subject that probably needs its own thread.

"That was a cheap remark, but then it goes with the dress!"

Kenny Everett.

[wintermute]

Of course it's a skirt! Albeit a subset of the general group and one that is generally sized for and associated with men.

Whether we refer to it as a kilt, a skirt or an oujamieflip it's still the same garment, just as comfortable and good to wear. The colour, length and style do not change according to what it is called and if garments had a gender I feel fairly certain that would not change either. Why worry what people call it, just wear what you want to, let others wear what they choose and enjoy life.

Have fun,


Ian.

I couldn't agree more.....But, it's still a Kilt!:argue:

[Milfmog]

I couldn't agree more.....But, it's still a Kilt!:argue:

Initially I felt "safe" wearing a kilt rather than other kinds of skirt. Some of my friends used to mickey take and refer to my skirt to try and get a rise out of me. I generally just let it go and would often refer to the kilt as a skirt myself. When I started wearing other styles of skirt they really did not have anywhere to go with the mickey taking, they had already discovered I was not going to rise to the bait so they just didn't bother. Pretty soon they had just accepted that I was still the same guy with the same habits, likes & dislikes and ability to drink beer. Now they don't even notice what I'm wearing unless someone else points it out.

I guess I'm saying that what we call a garment really does not matter, but managing peoples perceptions can be a powerful tool to help get what we want.

Have fun,


Ian.

[wintermute]

Initially I felt "safe" wearing a kilt rather than other kinds of skirt. Some of my friends used to mickey take and refer to my skirt to try and get a rise out of me. I generally just let it go and would often refer to the kilt as a skirt myself. When I started wearing other styles of skirt they really did not have anywhere to go with the mickey taking, they had already discovered I was not going to rise to the bait so they just didn't bother. Pretty soon they had just accepted that I was still the same guy with the same habits, likes & dislikes and ability to drink beer. Now they don't even notice what I'm wearing unless someone else points it out.

I guess I'm saying that what we call a garment really does not matter, but managing peoples perceptions can be a powerful tool to help get what we want.

Have fun,


Ian.

A good tactic; I still get the skirt jibes when I'm kilted (will probably have a few more by the end of today as I'm off out into London in the black number)....The weather is beautiful, and kilt (or skirt, if you will) is THE way to go. Too bad so many blokes haven't picked up on any of this yet. Oh well, their loss:)

[Milfmog]

So has anyone tried one of Union Kilts corduroy kilts? I sort of like the idea but remain unconvinced of how good they would feel to wear. So if you have one (or have tried one) could you answer the following:

• How heavy are they? (I'm not so much interested in the physical weight but in whether the weight is sufficient that the wearer is always conscious of what he's wearing.)
• How well do they retain their pleats?
• Have you tried washing one? And if so was it a pain to press the pleats back in?
• If you have one, would you consider buying another? If so why and if not why not?

Any other comments?

Have fun,


Ian.

[crfriend]

Tut, tut! You jolly well know the garment I'm referring to! In the UK, vests (now in decline) are normally worn 'under the shirt', waistcoats (even more rare) 'over the shirt'! :cheer:

I love the English language -- really, I do. I just need to remember that there are more than one of them....

[wintermute]

I love the English language -- really, I do. I just need to remember that there are more than one of them....

There is only ONE English, and that's the QUEENS English! Accept no substitutes!:)

[Charlie]

So has anyone tried one of Union Kilts corduroy kilts? I sort of like the idea but remain unconvinced of how good they would feel to wear. So if you have one (or have tried one) could you answer the following:

• How heavy are they? (I'm not so much interested in the physical weight but in whether the weight is sufficient that the wearer is always conscious of what he's wearing.)
• How well do they retain their pleats?
• Have you tried washing one? And if so was it a pain to press the pleats back in?
• If you have one, would you consider buying another? If so why and if not why not?

Any other comments?

* They are lighter in weight than the equivalent Union denim kilt, much softer, and cooler in warm weather.

* Had no problem with the pleats - they are stitched so will not lose their sharpness.

* I've washed mine, it's easy to iron and the pleats are not a problem.

* I have two, a chocolate brown one from 2 years ago, and a black one from their sale last month. So yes, I'd buy another one. I'd love a bottle green one, or perhaps one in burgundy red - brown and black are the usual dull 'male' colours. As for the 'if so, why?' well, I like them so much that I wear them most of the time and want to spread the 'load' between them

This morning, while in the supermarket and wearing the black cord kilt, I was approached by a Scottish lady who asked where I'd got the kilt from (and, refreshingly, she didn't ask all the usual questions!). I was able to give her a Union kilt business card (much to her delight). She told me that her husband, who is Dutch, wears his kilt whenever he can, and especially for hill walking. She really admired the kilt and thought her hubby would like one. Here's hoping he buys one :cheer:

Charlie

[binx]

I have a couple of corduroys, not UKs, but they both seem to have trouble keeping the pleat stitching in back. When I install an application there's no choice for QUEENS English...

binx

[wintermute]

When I install an application there's no choice for QUEENS English...

binx

WHAT!!!?? Must have words with Bill gates about this!:)