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Your second paragraph would contradict the first in the case of issues such as the abolition of slavery and the civil rights movement where religious motives led to protesting and breaking the law.
As saying goes: in Europe the state is protected from the church, in America the church is protected from the state.
Something else in play ? ......yes ,like when a chap in England (Old England) (In Europe), was banned from wearing skirts for life !! something was held back from us , was he litter picking in his micro number ? he said it was not fair as he always wore underwear (unlike some of the young ladies in the village !) not a free country as the Saxons wanted .crfriend wrote: ↑Thu Jan 27, 2022 12:48 am I just got back a couple of weeks ago (it feels like an eternity!) from Savannah, GA/USA, wore skirts (or the occasional dress) the whole time I was there, and was not once challenged about anything -- and I have long hair, frequently adorned with bows of other fancy adornments. I suspect there's something else in play here that's not being reported.
HiKnickson wrote: ↑Sun Aug 21, 2022 9:28 pm Something else in play ? ......yes ,like when a chap in England (Old England) (In Europe), was banned from wearing skirts for life !! something was held back from us , was he litter picking in his micro number ? he said it was not fair as he always wore underwear
Knowing bouncers, and considering the reply from the establishment, it seems the guy with the clipboard let his personal politics play a role. I’m new here and new to wearing kilts openly, do those here who are unabashedly openly wearing skirts also have troubles getting into places? Asking for a friend.Knickson wrote: ↑Sun Aug 21, 2022 9:28 pmSomething else in play ? ......yes ,like when a chap in England (Old England) (In Europe), was banned from wearing skirts for life !! something was held back from us , was he litter picking in his micro number ? he said it was not fair as he always wore underwear (unlike some of the young ladies in the village !) not a free country as the Saxons wanted .crfriend wrote: ↑Thu Jan 27, 2022 12:48 am I just got back a couple of weeks ago (it feels like an eternity!) from Savannah, GA/USA, wore skirts (or the occasional dress) the whole time I was there, and was not once challenged about anything -- and I have long hair, frequently adorned with bows of other fancy adornments. I suspect there's something else in play here that's not being reported.
I have never had any problem but I am not out to many places with doormen/bouncers these days.
There is great truth in what Steve writes there.STEVIE wrote: ↑Mon Aug 22, 2022 12:04 pmI have never had any problem but I am not out to many places with doormen/bouncers these days.
Certainly no hassle in any hostelry or pub that I have visited.
That said, there are local places that I'd deem "no-go", simply on prior knowledge.
As I said elsewhere, the World Not Caring is not a universal truth and Joe Public won't always mind his beeswax.
Be Aware, Stay Safe, Have Fun.
It was a while ago now , but I don`t understand how they could ever ban anyone from wearing skirts in public , In England you can wear what you like as long as no genitals can be seen , I would think this ban would now be void what with all the naked protests and group photo sessions .STEVIE wrote: ↑Mon Aug 22, 2022 2:54 amHiKnickson wrote: ↑Sun Aug 21, 2022 9:28 pm Something else in play ? ......yes ,like when a chap in England (Old England) (In Europe), was banned from wearing skirts for life !! something was held back from us , was he litter picking in his micro number ? he said it was not fair as he always wore underwear
History like this fascinates me and I'd love to know more details, place and dates would be good.
However, it rather sounds like one which comes from 2010 and there is a lot more than a simple "ban" on guy wearing skirt.
Steve.
Wouldn't happen if the wearer was just going about their "normal" business.
Wires crossed here , I was not talking about the Guy that dressed as a schoolgirl and had an ASBO , the one I read about was an older chap that lived in a Village and the residents do not like any free thinkers .STEVIE wrote: ↑Tue Aug 23, 2022 2:17 amWouldn't happen if the wearer was just going about their "normal" business.
In the case I mentioned, the guy was using the skirts to be a bloody pest to those around him.
He was a known sex-offender and the ban was the subject of an ASBO.
Antisocial Behaviour Order for those not acquainted with British legalese.
When I read about it, he came very close to being jailed because it was not an isolated breach.
That is how one earns a lifetime ban and potentially makes all our skirted lives more damn difficult.
Joe Public can be quite indiscriminate when it comes to using the tarry brush.
I reckon you'd actually have been stupid to be out and about skirted in that area while all of that was occurring.
This type of behaviour is certainly not helping us toward acceptance.
A degree of mindfulness is required and it is to no avail to rail against the injustice of it all.
Consistency and Fairness are words that good ole Joe P. doesn't always have much time for and then we can get Vic Vigilante just to help him along too.
Win friends, influence people but don't piss them off deliberately, you/we will lose in the end.
Steve.
OK, in that case, I cannot think of any way in which such a ban could be applied and enforced.
Yes ,I think maybe he was also not going with the flow on other issues and dissent is not liked in this free country that we are supposed to have .STEVIE wrote: ↑Wed Aug 24, 2022 2:11 amOK, in that case, I cannot think of any way in which such a ban could be applied and enforced.
Ah, wait, he did piss them off, by being himself! Then good old societal pressure did the rest.
Possibly a damn sight more effectively than my guy's asbo too.
Funny thing is that UK is generally tolerant of quirks and eccentricities but public opinion is too subjective to be relied on.
Steve.