SkirtedViking wrote:If you read thoroughly the discussion there are parallels made between how the dress fits John and the female model.
Double standard in my signature means that a woman in all MASCULINE attire and shoes is considered normal while the opposite not [...]
It's rather clear that we're on different wavelengths here; I was writing about the way a garment is tailored, and you seem to be arguing for full equality. In principle, I support the latter, but I'd really like to see the former paid attention to as well. If you look closely, most womens trousers of today (other than dungarees, which are truly unisex) bear only a passing nod in tailoring to the mens variety; it is a style that women have adopted, and made their own by tailoring it to their own body types. That it does not currently go the other way seems more to point up that most guys just don't care than anything else.
When you wear a "masculine" skirt and still some folks outside make a comparison how it fits you and how it would look like on a woman it is not a good feeling.
Other than the kilt and sarong-type garments, show me a skirt specifically constructed for men that does not look either like a parody by going overboard on "masculine detail" or is made from heavy denim. They do not seem to exist at the moment (Note: I have not seen the H&M one yet.), so we are forced to wear, and possibly adapt, womens styles, and that creates for many a tailoring problem. Of course, the more adept of us make their own skirts, and in so doing, wind up with bespoke garments that fit their body type perfectly. Comparing what a garment looks like on a man to what it looks like on a woman is pointless; pointing up tailoring and fit problems -- so they might be fixed -- should be fair game.
We have different figures but must have the same rights and variety of styles,men also have beautiful bodies,especially when they work out.
I concur with this, and I'd also point out that it's not necessarily a requirement to work out to have a decent body. Too, there are quite a few male body-types, and I believe it's important that clothes be properly cut and tailored for each of them; we all lose in the modern "one size fits most" mentality. Just try buying a shirt that doesn't fit like a tent at anything like a normal price.
As has always been the case anyway, beauty is -- and always will be -- in the eye of the beholder.
You think that all women look like the model?Hardly...
I'm actually impressed that they used a model that has hips and curves for the photo-shoot. Most of what passes for models these days are Kate Moss heroin-chic knock-offs that look like cadavers with slab sides; one of the reasons I suspect that the photo garnered the number of hits that it did is that the shot resembles (more or less) reality. Most of us -- men
and women -- are a bit too "plus-sized" for our own good anyway; shaming us (or trying to) by holding us up to waif-like anorexics I feel is not just counterproductive but dangerous as it introduces hopelessness ("I can never look like that!") and causes folks to not even try to stay in anything resembling physical shape. (Of course there is the old quip, "I am in shape. Round is a shape.")
