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r1g0r wrote:

Bob wrote:sorry bob, it didn't work. i'm still here.

(sorry, i'm somewhat dyslexic. i think i spelled your name backwards. no matter what i do, it still looks backwards to me)

Love it, r1g0r! I needed that laugh!

Kris

Kris wrote:

r1g0r wrote:

Bob wrote:

Love it, r1g0r! I needed that laugh!

Kris

great! now they're LAUGHING at me. and after all your mother and i went through to keep clothes on your table and food on your back. and to think that i could have been the next charles steinmetz, if i didn't have to earn enough to put your sister in that classy private stable up north!

rotten kids. hmmph! where's that flare gun. i'll show them!

Since we've gotten pretty much "Off Topic" here, I'll add another off topic statement. I have a name I use on Full Tilt Poker.net that cannot be spelled backwards. Try as you might, it always looks frontwards.

Yer killin' me! I'm all hysteresis

That off-topic answer to the upper puzzle is "livevil" I play lots of poker as livevil..

Since1982 wrote:That off-topic answer to the upper puzzle is "livevil" I play lots of poker as livevil..

aahhhh.........

as in "live on Time, emit no evil"

or when adam introduced himself to eve: "Madam, in Eden i'm Adam"

or: "Are we not drawn onward, we few, drawn onward to new era? "

palindromes!

IN my opinion girly is more he attitude than the attire.

At the moment I need to worry about that, but soon I'll have full fashion freedom and it won't be an issue.

Men should feel free to express themselves equally.

Dawn

"Dawn" said: At the moment I need to worry about that, but soon I'll have full fashion freedom and it won't be an issue.

Please explain what you mean by "full fashion freedom"?

Since1982 wrote:

At the moment I need to worry about that, but soon I'll have full fashion freedom and it won't be an issue.

Please explain what you mean by "full fashion freedom"?

...and while you're at it, could you explain what will soon change to give you this "full fashion freedom"? Perhaps an introduction post would help?

Have fun,


Ian.

Milfmog & Since1982,

The comment was an allusion to the completion of a transitioning journey I am making which will end soon hopefully when I get final paperwork and the surgery dependent on that paperwork.

I don't know how long this process will take to complete, but being honest I answer two questions explicity with differing answers. They are Sex and Gender at the moment they differ and I am trying to make them the same. Once I have achieved equality, I will be completly free to pick and choose any garment without is it a Y or X garment being asked. Sort of, I guess we will have to leave out the old swim trunks that will now be incomplete in most places. That is the condition I was alluding to in the comment.

I apologize if this is offensive to any one, but in my case I have found my side of the street and it is the Female side and I have crossed over mentally (and in many others), I want to support fashion equlaity for the sex I am becoming an ex-patriot of.

Respectfully
Dawn

Dawn, thank you for your introduction. It's always great to have different perspectives on men's fashion freedom.

Dawn wrote:The comment was an allusion to the completion of a transitioning journey I am making which will end soon hopefully when I get final paperwork and the surgery dependent on that paperwork.

I'm assuming that you mean, in blunt terms, that you are an M-to-F transsexual awaiting "SRS". (I generally need to have things explained to me in "blunt" terms, being a bit slow about figuring things out from clues.)

Dawn wrote:I apologize if this is offensive to any one,...

I don't understand why this would be offensive to anyone, but there's a lot I don't understand, and I assume you would know better than me how many people take offense at what you are doing.

On the other hand, it's a desire I can't really wrap my head around. I may wonder whether I like "girly" clothes because I want to look like a girl, or just because I like them for what they are (sort of like liking strawberry ice cream.) But I've never really identified that much with being male -- it's just the body and the role I got given -- so I've never felt that getting myself reassigned from the category "male" to the category "female" would really change who I am or how I feel about myself (or about what I wear.) I've had my name, my gender role, my genitalia, and my beard for a long time now, and while on the one hand I can't say that they're anything to brag about, on the other hand, like my troubles, I'm used to them by now and I haven't found any reason to think that I'd be any happier with different ones. If I really identify with anything, it's with things like my ability to make things work ("techie-ness") or my relationship with music, or my love for my kids (and, at one time, my (now ex-)wife.)

I do not believe that the term "girly" should considered to be offensive. I have seen many articles in popular women's fashion magazines about how to add a "masculine flare" or how to "masculinize" their look. Therefore, I don't believe that we should take offense to the term "girly" or "feminine". I would like to see an article in GQ or another popular men's magazine that describes how to add a little "feminine flare" to a normally masculine look. I believe that I will have to wait a lot of years before that will happen because men still consider feminine to be inferior and frivolous. Most men are too insecure in their masculinity to ever buy into the concept of feminizing their look. The concept of gender is a continuum and it is not possible to pigeon hole folks as either male or female. There are some very blokey blokes and some more feminine blokes, but we are all blokes that like to wear skirts and I believe that everyone's approach should be respected whether they are a Braveheart of a Feminine Guy in a skirt like myself.

Regards,

Jamie
Fashion Freedom for Men!!

Sometimes I just want to look and feel beautiful. And what better way to do that than to wear some beautiful clothes?