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crfriend wrote:I think I'd put firefighting into the, "It's a good idea to wear trousers for this job" category.
I have to agree; a skirt just does not make sense for some activities and while responding to a shout there'd not be time to waste changing. However, that should not be a reason why a skirt can't be worn to travel to and from work at the fire department. I suspect you'd get some mickey taking at first but if you don't rise or give in to it things will settle down fairly quickly.
All fear is in the mind; sometimes it is valuable and will prevent an action that could cause real damage but other times it just gets in the way. The trick is knowing whether your fear is beneficial or a hindrance; as far as skirt wearing is concerned, most fears are unfounded.
Have fun,
Ian.
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tooslowprius wrote:.... Half of the reason I don't wear out more is becuase I am on the local fire dept. I would take a really good guess and say that if it got back to my Cheif that I wore skirts that would end my time on the FD. ...
I don't know where you live, but our local (volunteer) fire department is pretty desperate for people. I think they'd be reluctant to turn away a trained, experienced, available firefighter just because he "dresses funny." (Now, if you were getting arrested on a regular basis because of what you were -- or weren't -- wearing, they might argue that they can't keep bailing you out of jail every time there's a fire )
tooslowprius wrote:Half of the reason I don't wear out more is becuase I am on the local fire dept. I would take a really good guess and say that if it got back to my Cheif that I wore skirts that would end my time on the FD.
At the risk of sounding pedantic, the Chief should be much more interested in your performance on the force rather than what you wear. If he's more worried about your off-duty attire than your on-line skills and determination then he's less than half the man required to fill his shoes.
By the by, I think I'd put firefighting into the, "It's a good idea to wear trousers for this job" category.
The really sad part is I am not sure on how to help my self when it comes to wearing skirts.
Give it time, and if you're still feeling somewhat insecure work with your counselor on the matter.
I qould never even think about wearing a skirt under my turnout gear. I wont even wear shorts. The first time you get blisters on your knees you 'll wish you had pants on. Just ask one of the females that wore a skirt under her turnouts and burnt her knees.
tooslowprius wrote:I qould never even think about wearing a skirt under my turnout gear.
My "trousers" comment was meant in a humourous vein; common sense should indicate that if one is going to be near fire (how else would you fight it in close quarters?) one ought to wear protective garb. I'm sorry that one of your women counterparts found out the hard way; hopefully she healed well.
The main thrust of my reply, and a couple of folks remarked similarly, is that what you do off duty should not impact your standing whilst on duty. One would hope that the supervisory staff would be aware of that. As far as the opinions of the people you're helping when you're on a run go, I suspect that they have vastly greater things to worry about than whether they saw you in a skirt at the local mall last week.
Milfmog's comments on fear are dead on.
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tooslowprius wrote:I qould never even think about wearing a skirt under my turnout gear.
My "trousers" comment was meant in a humourous vein; common sense should indicate that if one is going to be near fire (how else would you fight it in close quarters?) one ought to wear protective garb. I'm sorry that one of your women counterparts found out the hard way; hopefully she healed well.
The main thrust of my reply, and a couple of folks remarked similarly, is that what you do off duty should not impact your standing whilst on duty. One would hope that the supervisory staff would be aware of that. As far as the opinions of the people you're helping when you're on a run go, I suspect that they have vastly greater things to worry about than whether they saw you in a skirt at the local mall last week.
Milfmog's comments on fear are dead on.
I was just joking around about me wearing a skirt on a call, hell I have gotten blisters in my knees wearing pants/ I agree with what you are saying it's just hard to tell how they might react up there!
