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Carpenter pants are also a good idea. It occurred to me that either work pants or, now, carpenter pants turned into a skirt would make a great gardening skirt. I'm always loosing track of my trowel and having a loop to hang it from would be most useful.

Peter v wrote:

And so there are still more variations possible, beat that with trousers!

Ah Peter, you have never seen what I have done with trousers. Back in my most nefarious incarnation as a biology student, I transferred my botantical illustrations into hand embroidered versions on a pair of worn out blue jeans. The embroidery covered and reinforced the thin areas of cloth.

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sapphire wrote:Peter v wrote:

And so there are still more variations possible, beat that with trousers!

Ah Peter, you have never seen what I have done with trousers. Back in my most nefarious incarnation as a biology student, I transferred my botantical illustrations into hand embroidered versions on a pair of worn out blue jeans. The embroidery covered and reinforced the thin areas of cloth.

That's real um handy, with style! I really like flowery embroidery. Dont have any on my skirts yet, but it sur can be nice.

Peter v.

I once had a pair of flared jeans (yes! I am that old ) with red embroidery tapering from ankle to knee, and I loved those jeans. I loved the way the flares flapped around my ankles- a precursor of the joy of skirts, and the look also. Now some machine embroidery on a denim skirt is a definite thought without going towards "femme".

Sarongman wrote:I once had a pair of flared jeans (yes! I am that old ) with red embroidery tapering from ankle to knee, and I loved those jeans. I loved the way the flares flapped around my ankles- a precursor of the joy of skirts, and the look also. Now some machine embroidery on a denim skirt is a definite thought without going towards "femme".

Hey you're not the only one from that era..

If "Femme" means having a operation to change your hanging... to a inward.... then we don't qualify at all. We keep saying "Femme" but what does it really mean? Doe you have to have a split between the legs? Or does it have nothing to do with that? Both women AND men can wear finer, attractive clothing, and is in no way bound by your sex. I think that most attractive outspoken clothing, like clothing with embroidery, tailored clothing, in general the more attractive clothing "Like that which women tend to wear" is just that. Very nice clothing. Why call it "Femme"? The word Femme in my vieuw seems to suggest being female. Finer freestyle, creative clothing is generally called Femme, but I would opt for any other name. Unless we can aliënate the word femme from the suggestion of being female.

So come on guys, let's think of a better name to break with the association with femme and women. that 'll be hard to do, but at least we can think about it during the long winter nights ahead.

Peter v.

Peter v,
I loved your response.

Why not call it "embellished" clothing vs "unembellished" clothing?

Embellished or unembellished hmmm, that does sound good, I think i'll go with it. What I meant by "femme" was the out and out(rageous) drag queen look as seen in the (Aussie) movie 'Priscilla Queen of the Desert'. I still believe in caution but, that is probably just my phobia

Hi Everyone,
Most public restrooms have partitions between stalls so it shouldn't be a problem, but if they don't they usually have stalls around toilets. I don't have a problem with or without partitions. I just don't want them staring at me while I am trying to pee. Which, in itself, is a whole other problem!

sapphire wrote:Peter v,
I loved your response.

Why not call it "embellished" clothing vs "unembellished" clothing?

Yes, Sapphire,

em·bel·lish (m-blsh)
tr.v. em·bel·lished, em·bel·lish·ing, em·bel·lish·es
1. To make beautiful, as by ornamentation; decorate.
2. To add ornamental or fictitious details to: a fanciful account that embellishes the true story.

It is a very good word, only a bit tongue twisting to speak out.

peter v

JRMILLER wrote:Subject: Don't shoot me, but ...

It hadn't actually occurred to me, but now that you mention it....