Re 1985 I was 13. I wouldn't say girls really mattered but I noticed them
Wearing a slip under kilts
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SkirtDude
Perhaps somewhat inspired by this thread I went out and bought a new half slip. In the past I have gone with "large" but they always seemed to bind a bit around the hips so I got a "extra large" 32 inch long model. The bigger size definitely feels better. I thought 32" would be a smidgen on the long side but it seems to be shorter than the ankle length skirts I usually wear.
Re 1985 I was 13. I wouldn't say girls really mattered but I noticed them
Re 1985 I was 13. I wouldn't say girls really mattered but I noticed them
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AMM
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If by "lace" you mean "eyelet lace" (actually, eyelet trim), I do recall this. I still see it occasionally at dances. I think it's cute, and am considering whether I have the nerve to make a skirt with it.SkirtDude wrote:This thread reminded me of something. Does anybody else remember the fashion trend circa 1985 in which women's skirts and dresses had white lace sewn under the hem?
Thankfully it didn't stick but I remember a few girls in my middle school wearing such items for a year or two.
I recall having a disagreement with a number of regulars here as to whether this, or the effect it was supposed to simulate (that of an underskirt/dress peeking out from under a skirt or dress) could be seen as anything but slovenly. I was, of course, on the side that thought it could be attractive. (But then, I'm a sucker for the flirtatious -- flirtatious fashions, flirtatious women, ....
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The style of using eyelet trim at the hem of a skirt was to simulate the look of a petticoat peeking out from under a topskirt - something of a "country" look.
There are some styles that would indeed look slovenly if a slip was hanging out.
You can usually tell by the garment whether exposed lace is supposed to be there or not.
There are some styles that would indeed look slovenly if a slip was hanging out.
You can usually tell by the garment whether exposed lace is supposed to be there or not.
What is a half slip? And there's nothing wrong with wearing an under skirt under a kilt, çause you're not wearing a kilt stricktly by the rules and regulations anyway. Underskirts for women, ( before men started wearing skirts) have not only the function to prevent see through with thin skirts, but assist in non creeping up and provide a smooth surface to the legs, as well as inadvertantly protecting the skirt against body oils.AMM wrote:If by "lace" you mean "eyelet lace" (actually, eyelet trim), I do recall this. I still see it occasionally at dances. I think it's cute, and am considering whether I have the nerve to make a skirt with it.SkirtDude wrote:This thread reminded me of something. Does anybody else remember the fashion trend circa 1985 in which women's skirts and dresses had white lace sewn under the hem?
Thankfully it didn't stick but I remember a few girls in my middle school wearing such items for a year or two.
I recall having a disagreement with a number of regulars here as to whether this, or the effect it was supposed to simulate (that of an underskirt/dress peeking out from under a skirt or dress) could be seen as anything but slovenly. I was, of course, on the side that thought it could be attractive. (But then, I'm a sucker for the flirtatious -- flirtatious fashions, flirtatious women, ....
Further, about lace:
This is interesting, as Lace as we call it, is of course a fashionable way to finish an edge. Also calling it "girly" is wrong, that's from a biased men's point of vieuw, it is making a edge more attractive, more expensive looking, classy, pleasing for the eye. Which is something that men also can appreciate, but most probably are too chicken to even mention.
That's where a new way of thinking comes about, we have taken off our coloured men's glasses which let us see the world only as others wished we would see it, and now can see amongst other things, that wearing skirts is normal. So when you wish to make any edges nicer to the eye, lace can be used. Of course because of ages of abuse to free thinking by men, we have difficulty placing such things in our own mind as being just what it is, a nice way of making things look nice. And many men "flinch" at even the mention of the word "nice" for fear of losing their masculinity.
At least we can adress these things on this forum, so that at least WE can get a clear understanding about them, and then put them in the right place for us, and not where years of indoctrination has put them.
I myself like to see lace, it makes things "dainty" if you will, or pleasant to see, which goes for thing men wear also.
I am still under the influence of "men don't wear that" but would like lace on particular skirts, NOT to look like a woman, OF COURSE but to "dress"it up. Just like putting stripes on a car, and the like.
And as always, we each choose individually what WE want to wear, and don't have to wear everything others like.
Isn't this newly won freedom great?
Peter v.
A man is the same man in a pair of pants or a skirt. It is only the way people look at him that makes the difference.
Thanks, because I live in the Netherlands, and we call "underpants" "slips". I was put on the wrong track. Sometimes it's a little confusing, two languages.sapphire wrote:A half slip is an undergarment that hangs from the waist to the hem of the overskirt.
A full slip is an undergarment derived fron the medival chemise in that it has a bodice and hangs from the shoulders and extends to the hem of the garment.
I've actually got a black half slip myself..
O by the way, it's 00,22 hours in the morning over here now.
Peter v.
A man is the same man in a pair of pants or a skirt. It is only the way people look at him that makes the difference.
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BrotherTailor
With regards to lace trim. I picked up some lace tape 1" wide that I'm hoping to use on a project for myself....on the inside. There is something about just knowing that you are wearing something like that and keeping it a secret. Just a little bit of lace, perhaps used as hem or seam binding on the underside, or even inside a cuff where it might be seen perchance...
I have a nightgown with acrylic lace bodice panels and a v neck but it is definitely NOT [edit] the type of thing I would wear as daywear in public...
Priests and Bishops all wear lots of lace when vested....at least in my church they do.
I have a nightgown with acrylic lace bodice panels and a v neck but it is definitely NOT [edit] the type of thing I would wear as daywear in public...
Priests and Bishops all wear lots of lace when vested....at least in my church they do.
Brother Tailor, you must be Anglican. The Catholic Church seems to have ditched a lot of the lace and is closer to middle of the road Anglican. The last bastion of lace clad clergy is the high camp oops, I mean church Anglican. Reminds me of the picture of two rotund, elderly clerics in yard of lace, the caption being "Yes a nice little number, I picked it up in Harrods"
Lace
Yes, there are probably more men who appreciate lace as a very luxurious way of "finnishing"a edge of fabric. Something like a chrome trim on cars.
It is by no means sissy like, or too close too womens clothing, this is where our new insight in our way of thinking comes into play again. Seeing something like this, which before skirt wearing, and our AWAKENING, was just unthinkable for men, only for what it is and should be, a quality finnishing touch. Once you open your eyes and realise that, you can if you want, enjoy it for that. In the precise same way that you now enjoy skirt wearing, which also before, was unthinkable to do as a man.
Not all clothing needs a professional finnish, but we are so used to the run of the mill cheepo clothes, that we have almost forgotten how to appreciate good quality workmanship and products which are made and finished to a high quality, by a high degree of craftmanship. If you buy a car, and the carburetta (injection nowadays) is pollished like a mirror, etc, showing the pride of the maker, giving you pride, you'll enjoy it even more, even though it doesn't run any better from that alone. Clothing is the same. Only you're wearing it, so it's also your expression.
And so we progress from lace finnishing ( where suitable) to different styles and colours, and materials fro skirts. We have awakend, and where we personnaly have wishes as to the sort of skirt, we should not just wear what we think a man should wear to be "manly" . That's the way we wore our pants. 
Where we have coulourful, creative wishes for clothes, put that into skirts and wear them. You are still just as much a man as before. Or are men wearing tropical design shirts really girls? I don't think so, do you?
At least I can see the deeper meaning if various issues discussed here, and also feel the resistence in some men's visions of what some things may do to the popular image of manly men. Don't be affraid. If we do it right, not only we, but also eventually the public will become aware of the new reality.
Man, I shoul be a politician, going on like that. O no, çause I actually say something, they....... o never mind.
Wearing skirts is more. Isn't that a nice slogan?
O and back to kilt slips, aren't they a standard accessoire ?
Or is this also something that only women wear?
I think slips have a good function, and can be both practical and functional.
and not only under kilts, but under many skirts. At least a real kilt doesn't need one with regards to the see through quality of the cloth. That's probably why they were worn in the war, even bullets couldn't penetrate the real kilt. (just kidding) The kilt is a very special form of skirt, and THE kilt is not to be compared to skirts made in kilt style. That is another very interesting discussion if anybody feels like starting one up.
Peter v.
It is by no means sissy like, or too close too womens clothing, this is where our new insight in our way of thinking comes into play again. Seeing something like this, which before skirt wearing, and our AWAKENING, was just unthinkable for men, only for what it is and should be, a quality finnishing touch. Once you open your eyes and realise that, you can if you want, enjoy it for that. In the precise same way that you now enjoy skirt wearing, which also before, was unthinkable to do as a man.
Not all clothing needs a professional finnish, but we are so used to the run of the mill cheepo clothes, that we have almost forgotten how to appreciate good quality workmanship and products which are made and finished to a high quality, by a high degree of craftmanship. If you buy a car, and the carburetta (injection nowadays) is pollished like a mirror, etc, showing the pride of the maker, giving you pride, you'll enjoy it even more, even though it doesn't run any better from that alone. Clothing is the same. Only you're wearing it, so it's also your expression.
And so we progress from lace finnishing ( where suitable) to different styles and colours, and materials fro skirts. We have awakend, and where we personnaly have wishes as to the sort of skirt, we should not just wear what we think a man should wear to be "manly" . That's the way we wore our pants.
Where we have coulourful, creative wishes for clothes, put that into skirts and wear them. You are still just as much a man as before. Or are men wearing tropical design shirts really girls?
I don't think so, do you? At least I can see the deeper meaning if various issues discussed here, and also feel the resistence in some men's visions of what some things may do to the popular image of manly men. Don't be affraid. If we do it right, not only we, but also eventually the public will become aware of the new reality.
Man, I shoul be a politician, going on like that. O no, çause I actually say something, they....... o never mind.
Wearing skirts is more. Isn't that a nice slogan?
O and back to kilt slips, aren't they a standard accessoire ?
Or is this also something that only women wear?
I think slips have a good function, and can be both practical and functional.
and not only under kilts, but under many skirts. At least a real kilt doesn't need one with regards to the see through quality of the cloth. That's probably why they were worn in the war, even bullets couldn't penetrate the real kilt. (just kidding) The kilt is a very special form of skirt, and THE kilt is not to be compared to skirts made in kilt style. That is another very interesting discussion if anybody feels like starting one up.
Peter v.
A man is the same man in a pair of pants or a skirt. It is only the way people look at him that makes the difference.
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Seems only sensible to wear a suitable half-slip under a (usually!) very expensive Kilt, especially if you intend to not to wear any underwear. Its certainly possible to acquire ones from 'the other side', which have no obvious 'femme' acoutriments. The point raised earlier about having regard to sitting (wearing a Kilt), means finding one with plenty of 'room', too.
That reminds me, its nearly time to change the clocks, which also means its 'bring your Kilt out of the wardrobe' time, again (too flamin' hot to wear in the oppressive, 70F+, heat of summer)!
By the way, why isn't this thread in the "Kilts, Kilts" section?
That reminds me, its nearly time to change the clocks, which also means its 'bring your Kilt out of the wardrobe' time, again (too flamin' hot to wear in the oppressive, 70F+, heat of summer)!
By the way, why isn't this thread in the "Kilts, Kilts" section?
I don't wear slips but I can find nylon itself to be a problem. I have a couple of Diesel skirts that are all nylon, (inside and outside, with some kind of padding material in between, very comfy) but sometimes after washing they seem to hold a very high static electrical charge. I've seen sparks a few times, occasionally the skirt clings to my legs in a very irritating manner and once, getting out of my car, I had an electric shock that felt like several hundred volts
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Have you tried shaking them (as in 'cracking' a whip) a few times before wearing them. That (allegedly) is sufficient to discharge nylon garments.jaycee wrote:I don't wear slips but I can find nylon itself to be a problem. I have a couple of Diesel skirts that are all nylon, ... but sometimes after washing they seem to hold a very high static electrical charge.