Skirt Cafe is an on-line community dedicated to exploring, promoting and advocating skirts and kilts as a fashion choice for men, formerly known as men in skirts. We do this in the context of men's fashion freedom --- an expansion of choices beyond those commonly available for men to include kilts, skirts and other garments. We recognize a diversity of styles our members feel comfortable wearing, and do not exclude any potential choices. Continuing dialog on gender is encouraged in the context of fashion freedom for men. See here for more details.
crfriend wrote:To cop a line from the movie "Caddyshack", spoken by my namesake therein, "We can do that. We don't even need a reason." 'Nuff said.
We sure do not need a reason, but there is a reason for everything whether we are conscious of it or not. As someone who cares about the right to wear skirts, I am interested on what everyone perceives their reason for so caring to be.
What is clear so far is that there are many perceived reasons, and if these fly in the face of stereotyping of skirt-wearers.
I have, by the way, flaunted my kilts among thousands of people milling around this sunny weekend and thoroughly enjoyed it.
Skirttron wrote:I have, by the way, flaunted my kilts among thousands of people milling around.
How do you "flaunt" a kilt?? Run up into peoples faces hollering "I'M WEARING A KILT, I'M WEARING A KILT, I'M WEARING A KILT, SEE, SEE, SEE, SEE??? Isn't that a bit flamboyant? I just wear my skirt the same as I'd wear a pair of trousers if I wanted to wear them. I don't make any ostentatious displays that I'm wearing a skirt, I just wear it, just like and with my T-shirt and shoes. Sometimes I'm commando, sometimes I'm not, but that's no one's business except mine as long as I keep what I'm wearing modest. :cheer: :cheer: <<< 2 flaunting cheerleaders, LOL
I had to remove this signature as it was being used on Twitter. This is my OPINION, you NEEDN'T AGREE.
Story of Life, Perspire, Expire, Funeral Pyre!I've been skirted part time since 1972 and full time since 2005. http://skirts4men.myfreeforum.org/
If you spin round clockwise, you flaunt your pleats, but your apron flies up, and vice-versa anti-clockwise. Mmn, I think I'll just stick to wearing mine carefully (but not until the temperature drops to a sensible 50F - too hot for Kilts at the present time)!
I wore them as a child and then was forced to stop wearing them when I started school.
No explanation given to me evr made sense.
Since girl can and did wear pants it never mad any sense to me why I couldn't wear a skirt.
Or any other girl's clothes if I wnted to.
Dennis
Because I was curious, I wore a kilt to a costume party. Then I realized how comfortable they were, so I got more kilts and wore them more often.
Comfort is my main reason these days. I'm taking some classes at St. John's College in Santa Fe, NM this summer, and, having worn kilts and skirts every day here, find them quite comfortable.
Because of their lower relative cost, I've bought more skirts and gotten used to wearing them. I also wear skirts these days to widen my clothing choices. The downside of this is the possibility of making fashion mistakes, but my wife and women friends have helped me avoid the worst of these.
An unexpected side-effect of wearing kilts and skirts is an appreciation of increased body-awareness, of how confident I am, of how straight I stand or walk, and to pay attention when I sit or bend over. Another side-effect is seeing how some people treated me differently when I was dressed outside the normal range for guys. I noticed that people want to be able to know how to relate to those they're talking to. What's their relative status? Are you talking to someone superior to you, or a social inferior, or someone of the same status? Clothes give a lot of cues to this, and a guy wearing a skirt throws this all off.
A good point on body awareness, GS, yes, it sure does make you more body-aware. Frankly I do not dare go commando in case I forget or the wind blows too hard. It is strange when shopping to have to lower oneself carefully instead of just bending over. By "flaunting" my kilt, by the way, I meant wearing it proundly, unapolagetically, and with a smile.
Not too hot for an SK or a Bear kilt...Wore my Buchanan SK all day today, 101 degrees, and had women telling me "that's cooler than pants, huh?" Not one asked the "question", either. Excellent! Oh yeah, another advantage is when nature calls...
I have been asked why I'm wearing a kilt or a sarong a number of times. When in the kilt it usually comes after I correct someone who assumes I'm a Scot.
I've come to the conclusion that the honest answer is by far the best so I just tell people I find it more comfortable than trousers or shorts and in the warm weather we've had in the UK recently the sarong is far cooler than anything else I own (apart from my skin - which is probably socially unacceptable in the town centre ).
So far I've had no negative responses to this simple explanation beyond a couple of looks of mild disbelief.
Have fun,
Ian.
Do not argue with idiots; they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
Cogito ergo sum - Descartes
Cogito cogito ergo cogito sum - Ambrose Bierce
For such a long time at Tom's Cafe my assumption was that men just wore skirts for the look. As a bystander that is the element I appreciate and a natural conclusion from my experience with Quiet Man who skirts for the style. It was not until the discussions of where the Cafe would end up and the group to be served that I had that a-ha moment that made me realize the full range of 'why's.
Here is a question for anybody in the just for comfort category, if you found magic pants that had all the same qualities would you give up skirts? I don't have a point with this, just interested in what answers will be.
Skirt Chaser wrote:Here is a question for anybody in the just for comfort category, if you found magic pants that had all the same qualities would you give up skirts? I don't have a point with this, just interested in what answers will be.
Quiet Mouse
That's an easy question for me to answer - No, however I would add the magic pants to my wardrobe as another option.
Have fun,
Ian.
(Typo corrected)
Do not argue with idiots; they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
Cogito ergo sum - Descartes
Cogito cogito ergo cogito sum - Ambrose Bierce
Because I keep being told by our political leaders that I live in the free world and that all their efforts are on behalf of us who value and live in the free world and enjoy freedom.
In which case i am free to please myself what i wear within the laws of my country, so I do.
Mind you, you could ask why the leaders of the free world all seem to wear the same sort of boring dark suits?
Skirtchaser wrote:Here is a question for anybody in the just for comfort category, if you found magic pants that had all the same qualities would you give up skirts?
If they were pants/trousers, they "couldn't possibly have all the same qualities." Case in point, I'm overweight, unless I sit to put trousers on I'm dangerously hopping around on one foot trying to stuff one leg into a tube and then hopping around on the other foot trying to stick the other foot into a hole that is attached to the other leg, this is with my shoes OFF because they don't fit down pants legs when I'm wearing them on my feet. However, with a skirt, I step in with one foot while standing wearing my shoes, then step in with the other shoe clad foot and pull the waist up to where it fits with no balance problems at all...This action is completely impossible with any pants/trousers, magic or not..If I could step into pants exactly the same way, they wouldn't BE pants, they'd be a skirt. :whiteflag
I had to remove this signature as it was being used on Twitter. This is my OPINION, you NEEDN'T AGREE.
Story of Life, Perspire, Expire, Funeral Pyre!I've been skirted part time since 1972 and full time since 2005. http://skirts4men.myfreeforum.org/
Since1982 wrote:If they were pants/trousers, they "couldn't possibly have all the same qualities." Case in point, I'm overweight, unless I sit to put trousers on I'm dangerously hopping around on one foot trying to stuff one leg into a tube and then hopping around on the other foot trying to stick the other foot into a hole that is attached to the other leg, this is with my shoes OFF because they don't fit down pants legs when I'm wearing them on my feet. However, with a skirt, I step in with one foot while standing wearing my shoes, then step in with the other shoe clad foot and pull the waist up to where it fits with no balance problems at all...This action is completely impossible with any pants/trousers, magic or not..If I could step into pants exactly the same way, they wouldn't BE pants, they'd be a skirt. :whiteflag
I'm firmly with Skip here. I now suffer from limited feeling in my right arm/hand (due to trapped nerves in my lower back) which makes such simple acts as 'buttoning/zipping-up' or tying shoe-laces quite difficult, never mind negotiating tr*user-legs.
I'm probably on the other side of the aisle from some of my distinguished collegues here insofar as I may tend to wear the majic pants, at least for the time being. When society truly deems skirts as sexless attire I'd do skirts more. For the time being, though, while the human spirit is free, and while many of those spirits choose to belive a man donning a skirt is queer, odd or otherwise anomalous, I'd opt for the majic pants, assuming they were not unstylish (define that! lol). I guess I don't care to have others treat me anything other than a regular dude. And since others' impressions of us are affected by the attire we don, I'd rather not concede ground when its not necessary. That said, I do skirt occasionally as an advocate of our mutual interest in promoting our feedom of choice.
