Are there any women who watch this site?

[Bob]

Hey guys, let's cool it off.

Respect for others is a fundamental guiding principle at Skirt Cafe. That includes respect for others' privacy. No one is required to say something about him/herself he/she does not wish to say, and no one should have to endure disrespect for saying "no". Conversely, if you are asked for information you do not wish to give (usually pictures), it is best to politely ignore the request.

Also, everyone is welcome to post to every thread, regardless of the title of the thread.

As for quotes: messages involving multiple point-by-point quotes and rebuttals most often fall short of the level of respect required at Skirt Cafe; they (and other disrespectful messages) will be deleted as needed.

I hope this clarifies things; further violation of Skirt Cafe community principles will result in moderator action sufficient to rectify the situation.

Over the years, we have had a number of women at Tom's Cafe, the direct predecessor of Skirt Cafe; a search through the archives will uncover some of their views. We do not have men masquerading as women at Skirt Cafe, that is against community policy. Although a number of users have registered apparently with that intent, the vast majority of them never post and thus there is no problem.

Skirts for men have been discussed from time to time on a wide variety of on-line communities. Invariably, some women like the idea and some do not. For the most part, a majority seems to be at least positively disposed to it. Asking at Skirt Cafe will only give you the opinion of women who have already signed on to the idea of skirts for men. Logically, if one wishes to ask a question of a large number of women, this is not the on-line community for that question.

[Bravehearts.us]

"Are there actually any women who check this site (members / guests etc) and if so, what are your *honest* thoughts on what is posted here?"...wintermute

An honest question.

"It is not just women who can have an appreciation of skirted men. I think the observations of a man would be just as interesting here."...Skirt Chaser

A good thought.

"A gay man who doesn't wear skirts himself speaking of what looks good on his partner has precisely the same insights as an observer that an unskirted woman would have."...Quiet Mouse

Not necessarily but this is an interesting perspective to consider. Our opinions are as different as we are based on a multitude of reasons. But I have to believe that gender DOES play a role in our views, as does our sexual preference and our personal tastes. A male viewing his male partner in a skirted garment will almost certainly be different then that of a female viewing her male partner because they both come from different learning experiences. Also, I doubt that you will find many females who would come here to complain about men in skirts or kilts. Mostly, I would think, you will find that any female who comes here, does so because of the attraction.
You all have very valid points but to get into an argument over it is really pointless. Instead of getting upset over what you think someone is saying about you, listen to their words and what those words are telling you about the person writing them. When we communicate, our communication tells all about us.
Sometimes threads do wander and even though it may be frustrating to the author, that wandering sometimes starts us down the path of some really interesting thoughts and ideas that we may not have had if not for the original post.
Give it some thought.
Lar

[Skirt Chaser]

While I enjoy participating here I need to keep in mind that what is light discussion for me can be very personal and emotional to others. My pleasure of mental stimulation should not come at the cost of the type of person this forum was designed for. The Skirt Cafe should be a fun place for wintermute, and I want his interactions to be positive ones.

A male viewing his male partner in a skirted garment will almost certainly be different then that of a female viewing her male partner because they both come from different learning experiences.

Hmm. I'd think family and attitudes would be bigger influences than gender though it is said men are more visual so the allure of the rebel would not as often be the main attracting factor. Still, people vary. For me I think it is a tie these days despite it beginning with only an interest in Quiet Man being out of the ordinary.

Gender does come into play in some ways. When a common perception is that a man in a skirt is trying to be a woman a fearful mate of either gender is going to go through the same reaction- 'what does this make me?' In this case though, a gay man probably has more experience thinking about his sexual identity than a housewife worried people will think she's a lesbian if her husband wears a skirt. Now I'm really meandering wondering if gay men with a skirted partner ever get flack in the misconception they are trying to act straight.

Quiet Mouse

[Departed Member]

"--- a housewife worried people will think she's a lesbian if her husband wears a skirt"

I'm sorry, I cannot follow the logic here. Why would anyone think that - unless the husband was a full-blown cross-dresser/transvestite?

[crfriend]

"--- a housewife worried people will think she's a lesbian if her husband wears a skirt"

I'm sorry, I cannot follow the logic here. Why would anyone think that - unless the husband was a full-blown cross-dresser/transvestite?

I personally suspect that the only vehicles by which that jump in logic would be possible are unbelievable ignorance or willful stupidity. Clothes do not make the man (or woman) despite what marketers continually tell us -- and they certainly don't alter our gender or our preferences.

If somebody thinks I'm something I'm not because of what I'm wearing that's their problem (unless they decide to make it mine by "sharing").

[Skirt Chaser]

Is a lesbian fear likely? Not at all, but I would say a lot is possible when it comes to fears and it is rarely logical. To get back to wintermute's original request for thoughts on what is posted here I think the expectation that women should be okay with fashion freedom stands out for me. When men can take years to come around to the idea of being free to wear what they want when they want it should come as no surprise that the people around them need time to consider the idea.

I can't say enough good things about Quiet Man being open with me from the start, even before we dated. Meanwhile, if a man has been wearing a skirt for years and hides it from his wife until caught I see no reason for her to be understanding anytime soon.

Quiet Mouse