Barleymower wrote: ↑Tue Jan 27, 2026 12:20 pm
STEVIE wrote: ↑Tue Jan 27, 2026 12:26 am
BM
A "feminine" appearance is only made by the shape of the body that creates it, all else is complete invention.
If we go on the premise that clothes have no gender, it has to follow that they are neither masculine nor feminine.
In answer to the thread, anything that I damn well please to suit my mood of the moment.
Misgendered, I can't say that I really care too much about that either, just not my problem.
As for "permission", that's easy, I agree with my choices wholeheartedly.
Steve.
My own view is the feminine appearance is driven by the person. Feminine women exude feminity even if they are in a boiler suit. Form has some affect..Women's weight distribution and form causes them to move differently to men.
Men will look masculine regardless of what they wearing (which is a problem for our TG folk). So flaired skirt will look manly on a man, proving Steve's point that clothes have no gender.
We don't need permission but when the argument starts and we are told it's not manly or attractive or that it's a fetish.
My response is primarily to the question of femininity, but Steve you put the issue of 'gender & choice' so aptly I had to leave it in; but I differ with both you and BM that "feminine" is a reflection of body shape or movement. I'll grant we often, not always, label
gender quickly by form and movement -- but gender and "feminine" are not synonymous. Feminine is a social construct and men or women can readily take on characteristics anywhere along the masculine/feminine scale; often displaying aspects from several different points from the full spectrum. Most of us on this site are not going to get many 'feminine' points upon our physical appearance or movement -- but we certainly can in our interactive manners; our "colors" and style; the 'shape of our garments'; and other characteristics more commonly attributed to females in the contemporary western culture -- purses, nail color, and if we are lucky -- in a more respectful and open acceptance of others, rather than raising the finger and fist as our first, & only acceptable masculine response!
Nor do I need a female body to be feminine -- though it might make finding fun fitting garments a bit easier -- but I would like to be released from the masculine box that dictates I must only wear drab, uncomfortable, 'approved' garments and exhibit anger, violence, self-righteousness, and alpha male behaviors to count as a valid person.
Apparently a big element in the assessment of where one fits on the feminine/masculine scale is, in my opinion, absurd-- the choice of color. I have been told on several occasions that "plain" skirts on men are OK, but if we are wearing bright colors, patterns, flowers, lace trim, fluffy, or asymmetrical hems ---that is a bridge too far!
I probably have two 'compelling reasons' for my choice of skirts -- one is the comfort & fun; and the second is to help break open the man box as that box has driven men to such a narrow range of acceptable expressions of emotions/behavior that it is literally killing people.
So, to bring this back to the thread: My preferred skirt -- the ones I like on any given day, and hopefully they will stir a few thoughtful ruminations.