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Re: LBB: Mexican Men's Skirt Brand Baron Invites Society to 'Take Off Your Machismo' and Defy Gender Norms
Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2022 12:07 am
by ScotL
Myopic Bookworm wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 7:54 pm
I'm very impressed by this initiative. (I am also impressed by that nice black skirt!) But I do wonder, from the state of the baron.mx website, whether the company is actually an active business, or was just invented as a vehicle for a visibility campaign by an astute publicity company... I can find some pictures also on Instagram, and the "Pantalones" video was posted 1 August on the Mexican Roastbrief site and taken up by Badhombre online magazine. I note that Arah Kim, described in one place as co-creator of Baron, is also said to be the Creative Director of Le Juju, the publicity company, so the skirt company could be a fictional creation to give apparent substance to the anti-machismo campaign (or even - he says cynically - just to get exposure for the publicity company). (My Spanish isn't good enough to follow it up further.)
https://badhombremagazine.com/donde-com ... igualable/
Seems like a helluva lot of work for a ruse.
Re: LBB: Mexican Men's Skirt Brand Baron Invites Society to 'Take Off Your Machismo' and Defy Gender Norms
Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2022 1:56 am
by Freedomforall
ScotL wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 12:07 am
Myopic Bookworm wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 7:54 pm
I'm very impressed by this initiative. (I am also impressed by that nice black skirt!) But I do wonder, from the state of the baron.mx website, whether the company is actually an active business, or was just invented as a vehicle for a visibility campaign by an astute publicity company... I can find some pictures also on Instagram, and the "Pantalones" video was posted 1 August on the Mexican Roastbrief site and taken up by Badhombre online magazine. I note that Arah Kim, described in one place as co-creator of Baron, is also said to be the Creative Director of Le Juju, the publicity company, so the skirt company could be a fictional creation to give apparent substance to the anti-machismo campaign (or even - he says cynically - just to get exposure for the publicity company). (My Spanish isn't good enough to follow it up further.)
https://badhombremagazine.com/donde-com ... igualable/
Seems like a helluva lot of work for a ruse.
Did you see this site with their skirts for sale?
https://baron.mx/
Re: LBB: Mexican Men's Skirt Brand Baron Invites Society to 'Take Off Your Machismo' and Defy Gender Norms
Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2022 2:50 am
by ScotL
Freedomforall wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 1:56 am
ScotL wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 12:07 am
Myopic Bookworm wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 7:54 pm
I'm very impressed by this initiative. (I am also impressed by that nice black skirt!) But I do wonder, from the state of the baron.mx website, whether the company is actually an active business, or was just invented as a vehicle for a visibility campaign by an astute publicity company... I can find some pictures also on Instagram, and the "Pantalones" video was posted 1 August on the Mexican Roastbrief site and taken up by Badhombre online magazine. I note that Arah Kim, described in one place as co-creator of Baron, is also said to be the Creative Director of Le Juju, the publicity company, so the skirt company could be a fictional creation to give apparent substance to the anti-machismo campaign (or even - he says cynically - just to get exposure for the publicity company). (My Spanish isn't good enough to follow it up further.)
https://badhombremagazine.com/donde-com ... igualable/
Seems like a helluva lot of work for a ruse.
Did you see this site with their skirts for sale?
https://baron.mx/
Yes, not sure why you’re pointing that out? Myopic Bookworm is suggesting the website may just be a publicity campaign. I’m suggesting that website would be a lot of work just for a publicity campaign. In other words, I think it’s a real website hawking mens skirts. Perhaps I am missing your point? Sorry if I am.
Re: LBB: Mexican Men's Skirt Brand Baron Invites Society to 'Take Off Your Machismo' and Defy Gender Norms
Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2022 7:51 am
by phathack
Seems a little pricy when I can get he same look at 20% of the price on Amazon.
Re: LBB: Mexican Men's Skirt Brand Baron Invites Society to 'Take Off Your Machismo' and Defy Gender Norms
Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2022 10:04 am
by ScotL
phathack wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 7:51 am
Seems a little pricy when I can get he same look at 20% of the price on Amazon.
Isn’t all fashion stupidly like this? What you can get for $10, $100 or $1000 is all the same look but the designer changes and that somehow makes all the difference. I know there is sometimes a large change in quality but the rules that dictate fashion costs are difficult to understand
Re: LBB: Mexican Men's Skirt Brand Baron Invites Society to 'Take Off Your Machismo' and Defy Gender Norms
Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2022 1:38 pm
by Myopic Bookworm
ScotL wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 2:50 am
I think it’s a real website hawking mens skirts. Perhaps I am missing your point? Sorry if I am.
But the website is incomplete (like, it has sections that are clearly part of a business website template). There is no functional ordering or delivery information.
It may seem a lot of work, but it may be worth it, depending on motive. If the backers are mainly interested in raising awareness for a social campaign against "machismo", then their invention of a men's skirt company is getting the exposure they want. If they are also seeking to raise the profile of their publicity company then the same applies; and it's not a lot of effort if they are already in the business of setting up other businesses with slick-looking commercial websites. Just a couple of sessions with some male models, a dressmaker, a photographer and a video-maker, then a couple of hours knocking together a partial website, and some well-placed tip-offs to the right online media. A good college project for a student in web design and media studies.
Re: LBB: Mexican Men's Skirt Brand Baron Invites Society to 'Take Off Your Machismo' and Defy Gender Norms
Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2022 1:53 pm
by Coder
I added a skirt to the cart, clicked checkout - takes me to a checkout page. Looks like they are using shopify (verified in code and I've done my share of shopify-powered site purchases).
Re: LBB: Mexican Men's Skirt Brand Baron Invites Society to 'Take Off Your Machismo' and Defy Gender Norms
Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2022 5:21 pm
by Freedomforall
Yes, not sure why you’re pointing that out? Myopic Bookworm is suggesting the website may just be a publicity campaign. I’m suggesting that website would be a lot of work just for a publicity campaign. In other words, I think it’s a real website hawking mens skirts. Perhaps I am missing your point? Sorry if I am.
Sorry, I tried clicking on a skirt and adding it to my cart. It says the checkout process is not working at this time.
Re: LBB: Mexican Men's Skirt Brand Baron Invites Society to 'Take Off Your Machismo' and Defy Gender Norms
Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2022 1:06 am
by ScotL
Myopic Bookworm wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 1:38 pm
ScotL wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 2:50 am
I think it’s a real website hawking mens skirts. Perhaps I am missing your point? Sorry if I am.
But the website is incomplete (like, it has sections that are clearly part of a business website template). There is no functional ordering or delivery information.
It may seem a lot of work, but it may be worth it, depending on motive. If the backers are mainly interested in raising awareness for a social campaign against "machismo", then their invention of a men's skirt company is getting the exposure they want. If they are also seeking to raise the profile of their publicity company then the same applies; and it's not a lot of effort if they are already in the business of setting up other businesses with slick-looking commercial websites. Just a couple of sessions with some male models, a dressmaker, a photographer and a video-maker, then a couple of hours knocking together a partial website, and some well-placed tip-offs to the right online media. A good college project for a student in web design and media studies.
I think they’re interested in challenging macho stereotypes but I think they’re also I retested in hawking mens skirts. I’ve never really made a website. My one attempt produced an awful rendition that then got fixed. Then I learned from the person who helped me that it is a very difficult thing to make and really hard to make it completely functional.
Re: LBB: Mexican Men's Skirt Brand Baron Invites Society to 'Take Off Your Machismo' and Defy Gender Norms
Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2022 1:29 am
by Coder
They are using a shopping platform named "Shopify" - it makes it easy to create a web store. However, whoever was in charge didn't finish the job. But, again, I was able to get to the checkout steps.