Skirted men and the "military" mind set.

[imadube]

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I removed this content as it seemed to start a ridiculic type thread and I did wish to be taken seriously. Though not in the profession of the human mind I do like to learn the reasons why.

The comment below about the joining the band - honestly the post may as well say WE ALL should just go tranny and be done with it.
As for the dress right dress - More tranny like comments and not apprieciated.

Now say what you will - I will not be looking at this thread further.

[Since1982]

You could have always learned how to bang a drum, tootle a bagpipe or march with verve. I think the Army has some kilted Pipe and Drum corps. I know the Marines do. (Marching with verve is marching with full length arm swings, every kilt in line swinging in the same movement and every bonnet's ribbon flying the same in the breeze.)


No one, 'specially not me, is ridiculing you, Imadube. It would be a way to wear a skirt in the Army without being ridiculed or be considered "different" It certainly wouldn't get you in fights as kilted warriors worldwide are considered very tough soldiers. The Germans in World War 1 referred to kilted British soldiers as "Ladies from Hell" (look this up online) because of their unfearing march right into withering fire attitude. Many kilted regiments of the British Army have distinguished themselves with honor and fortitude in many wars. Look up a movie called "To End All Wars" for a terrific movie about a regiment of kilted soldiers that were captured by the Japanese in WW2 starring Keifer Sutherland and others. It was a true story about Captain Earnest Gordon.

You should not jump to conclusions so quickly. The United States Marine Corps is very proud of it's Pipe and Drum regiments, even though in recent years they've become more a band than fighters. They ARE fully trained soldiers just as you undoubtably are also.

[r.m.anderson]

Hey Since1982:

Is that what they call ""Dress" - Right - "Dress"" ?

LOL!

rm

[r1g0r]

"dress right dress" is the command given to a group of troops to have them align themselves in properly lined-up columns and rows.

each soldier immediately places their left hand on their left hip, with elbow "broken" (conveying a 90-degree angle pointing out their left side). their right arm and hand form a spear-type position straight out from the right shoulder. they also turn their head so that they are looking directly over their right shoulder at the soldier next to them.

then, while visually aligning themselves with the soldier to their right and stepping right until they touch the next soldier's elbow, they align with the soldier in front of them by touching them on the shoulder with their out-stretched hand.

the troops in the front rank do NOT extend their right arms.
the troops in the right-most column do NOT turn their heads.

this produces a perfectly-aligned body of soldiers. it does require some practice to do smoothly, but almost nobody has serious trouble.

to return the troops to their normal position af attention, the command "ready, front" is given.

[AMM]

I think the term "dress" as used here does not refer to clothing.

"dress" also means to arrange, especially to arrange neatly or for show. Most of the definitions for "dress" in my dictionary relate to this meaning, not to clothing.

There's also the word "dressage", which refers to training, especially training horses to move in stylized ways; say, for performances.

[Sarongman]

Nothing to do with skirted men, but everything to do with the strange, touchy, military mind set. I have read in our local paper, a snippet from world news entitled 'Shot in the Foot' I quote in part "He cost an estimated $35 million to train, but elite U.S. combat pilot Lt. Col. Victor Fehrenbach, heavily decorated, and with tours of duty in Kosovo, Afghanistan and Iraq, is about to be sacked ...because he is gay. Furthermore.. rare as it is to find West Point graduates who can speak Arabic fluently, Daniel Choi is about to be sacked for the same 'offence." If this was civvy street, they could sue under the anti discrimination laws, but they have no rights within the military.--- and yet, military men can, on their own, be some of the most open minded people around.

[AMM]

... but everything to do with the strange, touchy, military mind set. [description of highly qualified soldiers discharged for being gay] --- and yet, military men can, on their own, be some of the most open minded people around.

I'm not sure that the "military mind set" is the issue, at least not as you seem to be suggesting.

As part of my never-ending "members of groups are not the same as their group's stereotype" campaign, let me point out that a great many people in the US military (perhaps even a majority), at every level, openly disagree with the rule that says that military people who are (officially) known to be gay must be discharged, and do what they can to prevent such discharges. It is the US government, and the US Congress in particular that insists on the rule that gay people, however qualified, must be discharged, and the US military has a long-standing tradition of following the orders (however asinine) of its civilian leadership. In most cases, though, gay people who don't force their superiors to take official notice of their gayness are not being discharged.

I also recall that at least some of the people who are getting discharged are people who went very public with their gayness, in an attempt to pressure the US government to rescind its rule about gays in the military. These people ran afoul of the universal military rule: "don't publicly disagree with your superiors if you don't want to get into trouble."