jury duty

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Re: jury duty

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I said previously that I had worn trousers when called in 2016 and, ten years later, I'd do the same.
Not because of fear of censure but simply not to be the focus of attention.
In 21 it never occurred to me that there could be a major difference between the United States and the U.K.
With respect to Al, I'd be a deal more reticent and be very aware of the differences in our judicial systems.
Interesting that Moonshadow said if a skirt was court appropriate for a woman, to sustain equality it must be okay for a man.
That was 21 but in 2026?
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mr seamstress wrote: Sun Feb 08, 2026 12:36 am Mr Coder my number one advice would be just contact the court and inform them your prefer attire isn't a pair of pants and don't keep it a secret from the court. If you don't tell the court it can be used against you for having a secret agenda and can be jailed for it. Unfortunately you will draw some attention and can be worse by not revealing your choice of attire. I you don't reveal to the court your prefer attire, you will be adding your anxiety regardless even you show up wearing a pair of pants. Let the court decide if you will be permitted to wear a skirt and decide from there.
I don't think any of that would happen (jailing) - most likely they would either ask me to leave and change or perhaps come the following week attired differently - if such an objection were to be raised. But I think it's very unlikely given the liberal town.
crfriend wrote: Sat Feb 07, 2026 10:04 pm Well, I wouldn't say that times have gotten better -- all I've seen is entirely retrograde, but with luck we may be able to escape that going forward.
Yeah.... my choice of words there was iffy. I think with the current political climate pants feels safer, which is kinda sad.
STEVIE wrote: Sun Feb 08, 2026 1:09 am Not because of fear of censure but simply not to be the focus of attention.
In 21 it never occurred to me that there could be a major difference between the United States and the U.K.
With respect to Al, I'd be a deal more reticent and be very aware of the differences in our judicial systems.
Interesting that Moonshadow said if a skirt was court appropriate for a woman, to sustain equality it must be okay for a man.
That was 21 but in 2026?
Steve.
First off, I agree with the "not the focus of attention bit" and I hope that it's not a convenient excuse for me to chicken out. I also think - politically -it's a bit more risky in 2026 than say 2021 to skirt about in the US - if only because the pendulum is swinging a bit in one direction and people don't really communicate anymore, it seems.
Uncle Al wrote: Sun Feb 08, 2026 12:47 am The plaintiff AND the defendant No-Showed.
We were turned loose after about 1 hour.
(That includes the waiting time to get into the court room.)
This is one of three district courts in our county, and they likely called 100-200 people to service. From what I gather, there are three judges hearing cases at this one courthouse. Slightly higher chance of being picked, with the possibility of being put on multiple juries (based on a reddit post for this district). Worst of all, there was something about a 2-month timeframe where they could call me for service, not sure how that works.

Anyhow - I'm not going to lose sleep over this one - but I appreciate the conversation and reflections (which is why I posted a reply).
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Re: jury duty

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mr seamstress wrote: Sun Feb 08, 2026 12:36 am
Coder wrote: Sat Feb 07, 2026 9:07 pm
Mr Coder my number one advice would be just contact the court and inform them your prefer attire isn't a pair of pants and don't keep it a secret from the court. If you don't tell the court it can be used against you for having a secret agenda and can be jailed for it. Unfortunately you will draw some attention and can be worse by not revealing your choice of attire. I you don't reveal to the court your prefer attire, you will be adding your anxiety regardless even you show up wearing a pair of pants. Let the court decide if you will be permitted to wear a skirt and decide from there.
Do you have any evidence; documentation; statues to support these suppositions? Your suggestions seem far-fetched to me; almost to the point of fear-mongering reflecting your own insecurity.

I do agree that not being a distraction could be an important element. It is worth noting that on most jury trials the attorneys have the opportunity to question and excuse a candidate without citing a reason. (In fact, this might be useful to Coder if he would really NOT like to be on call for duty during the prescribed time -- his skirt might well get him dismissed altogether!)

Nor do I disagree with the utility of a call to the court -- though I doubt anyone would be able to give a definitive answer; nor record it for the record. Probably a useless call save for curiosity.

In a similar circumstance I have reported here the wearing of pants when at a small public protest outside the Constitutional Court because the case was about a kid who had been brought here by his mother seeking asylum from a pedophile father. The father was of course denying his actions and trying to blame the Mother for such wild suggestions. I was fearful my support of the mother as a MIS might be misinterpreted in such surroundings.

I do not think I'd choose pants for a simple call to jury duty as I routinely appear as a MIS at all manner of public and private facilities without pushback or comment. I've attended weddings; funerals, legal proceedings, called upon police, court, hospital, immigration, visited and taught at schools, all as a MIS without any extraordinary response. I did in the past, and may well in the current era of repression in the US revert to pants for their TSA and airport Immigration goons as I have already pushed their buttons with my outspoken political views -- thugs, with no ID, masks and guns are a clear and present danger to all -- not only MIS.
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As I had said - I went in jeans. Fortunately, my number wasn't called and I never had to leave the waiting room. I'll be honest - it may be a civic duty - but I'm just not cut out to be a juror. As for other people in the room - all decked out in variations of normal. I'm also 100% sure had I worn a skirt, no one would have bat an eye.
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Faldaguy wrote: Tue Feb 10, 2026 5:41 am I do agree that not being a distraction could be an important element. It is worth noting that on most jury trials the attorneys have the opportunity to question and excuse a candidate without citing a reason. (In fact, this might be useful to Coder if he would really NOT like to be on call for duty during the prescribed time -- his skirt might well get him dismissed altogether!)
Oddly enough, I kept going back and forth on this one - but ended up deciding to wear jeans because I figured - I didn't want my outfit to play a role whatsoever in their choices, were I to be called. I was hoping to be dismissed, and I got that chance through pure luck (random number picking and a large pool of people), but I would not want it to be because I believed I was being dismissed due to what I was wearing. And I'd never know, which is why I felt it was better for my long-term sense of self to not take that "risk".
Faldaguy wrote: Tue Feb 10, 2026 5:41 am I do not think I'd choose pants for a simple call to jury duty as I routinely appear as a MIS at all manner of public and private facilities without pushback or comment. I've attended weddings; funerals, legal proceedings, called upon police, court, hospital, immigration, visited and taught at schools, all as a MIS without any extraordinary response. I did in the past, and may well in the current era of repression in the US revert to pants for their TSA and airport Immigration goons as I have already pushed their buttons with my outspoken political views -- thugs, with no ID, masks and guns are a clear and present danger to all -- not only MIS.
I don't have quite the repertoire of events, or circumstances, but have enough experience to agree in principle. But again, there was that bit of uncertainty in my mind and I just wanted to go in, collect my payout, and leave.
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Coder wrote: Tue Feb 10, 2026 4:28 pm
Faldaguy wrote: Tue Feb 10, 2026 5:41 am I do agree that not being a distraction could be an important element. It is worth noting that on most jury trials the attorneys have the opportunity to question and excuse a candidate without citing a reason. (In fact, this might be useful to Coder if he would really NOT like to be on call for duty during the prescribed time -- his skirt might well get him dismissed altogether!)
Oddly enough, I kept going back and forth on this one - but ended up deciding to wear jeans because I figured - I didn't want my outfit to play a role whatsoever in their choices, were I to be called. I was hoping to be dismissed, and I got that chance through pure luck (random number picking and a large pool of people), but I would not want it to be because I believed I was being dismissed due to what I was wearing. And I'd never know, which is why I felt it was better for my long-term sense of self to not take that "risk".
Faldaguy wrote: Tue Feb 10, 2026 5:41 am I do not think I'd choose pants for a simple call to jury duty as I routinely appear as a MIS at all manner of public and private facilities without pushback or comment. I've attended weddings; funerals, legal proceedings, called upon police, court, hospital, immigration, visited and taught at schools, all as a MIS without any extraordinary response. I did in the past, and may well in the current era of repression in the US revert to pants for their TSA and airport Immigration goons as I have already pushed their buttons with my outspoken political views -- thugs, with no ID, masks and guns are a clear and present danger to all -- not only MIS.
I don't have quite the repertoire of events, or circumstances, but have enough experience to agree in principle. But again, there was that bit of uncertainty in my mind and I just wanted to go in, collect my payout, and leave.
I don't believe that the court can force you to wear pants for jury duty. If women are allowed to wear skirts, then so are you. Otherwise it is discrimination.
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Re: jury duty

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I'm 100% sure that If I'm called upon again for Jury duty I'll pull on a skort and t-shirt and had down to the court house. Take me as I am or dismiss me, their call.
As far as I know there is no law that says I have to wear pants, just that I not be indecent in appearance.
A full time skirt wearer since 2020.
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