Wearing a skirt is not inferior

[Barleymower]

A case for men wearing skirts
The author "Toke" puts a clear case to justify wearing skirts as a man and how it benefits both men and women.
https://eccentypically.substack.com/p/a ... -in-skirts

[Stu]

I see it as a men's rights issue (and a boys' rights issue). Females can and do wear trousers, so let's have some fairness and gender equality.

[FLbreezy]

The problem is that women entering traditional male spaces/behaviours (wearing pants, being in the military, being a CEO, etc) makes them "equal", but for some reason men entering traditional female spaces (wearing skirts, rearing children, being a nurse or grade school teacher, etc) makes then "less". It takes balls for men to do things that society says makes them "less".

I of course hope one day we'll get all this cow patties sorted out, but I don't see it any time soon.

I wonder sometimes if it's more deeply ingrained than we think. Social conservatism being against men's "feminization" perhaps comes from much older times..."if our men aren't manly enough, our tribe won't be able to defend itself" or something. I don't know. It sucks though.

[Barleymower]

I wonder sometimes if it's more deeply ingrained than we think. Social conservatism being against men's "feminization" perhaps comes from much older times..."if our men aren't manly enough, our tribe won't be able to defend itself" or something. I don't know. It sucks though.

I see it as a men's rights issue (and a boys' rights issue). Females can and do wear trousers, so let's have some fairness and gender equality.

Men and boys have the "right" to wear what they want. My experience of boys and girls is they both cry. Crying is not a female thing. Then why are boys told not to cry? I'm no expert but I would say that FLB you are right, boys are expected to protect women when they are older. Is that still true today?

I think we can do all that and wear what we want.

[FLbreezy]

I think we can do all that and wear what we want.

I completely agree.

I grew up hearing Free To Be on the record player, but we all know how that turned out, it only really applies to women for most practical purposes. There were so many mixed messages around.

[phathack]

I think we can do all that and wear what we want.

I completely agree.

I grew up hearing Free To Be on the record player, but we all know how that turned out, it only really applies to women for most practical purposes. There were so many mixed messages around.

If your like me and never heard the song Free To Be, here it is on Youtube.

https://youtu.be/nCUGMMEF2Zk?si=aioif7skyO8NUWqU

[Mouse]

To me, it is another piece, trying to come up with reasons from culture, history and any other source, that give you the OK to go out in a skirt.

Life is more simple that that JUST DO IT......before you die.

I also think that if your character is strong enough, then what you are wearing should not matter.

[Damon]

FL Breezy wrote

I wonder sometimes if it's more deeply ingrained than we think. Social conservatism being against men's "feminization" perhaps comes from much older times..."if our men aren't manly enough, our tribe won't be able to defend itself" or something. I don't know. It sucks though.

Yes. But much more recently than primitive tribes.

For several centuries young boys wore dresses until they were about 5 to 7 years old. This practice stopped around the time of the First World War. Until then wars had mostly been fought by volunteers, but WW1 slaughtered young conscripts on an unprecedented scale.

Society deemed it necessary for all boys to be raised to become soldiers and anything soft, feminine or individualistic be eradicated from their upbringing.

I am reading the autobiography of John Le Mesurier (Sgt. Wilson in Dad's Army), who was born 1912. There is a picture of him aged 3 and wearing a dress. And my father who was also born in 1912 also wore dresses until he was three. I was born in 1941 and never did. Though a boy about the same age as me who lived a few houses away was kept in dresses until he was about 5. But he was a rare exception and neighborhood gossip thought it was almost scandalous.

[STEVIE]

I am reading the autobiography of John Le Mesurier (Sgt. Wilson in Dad's Army), who was born 1912. There is a picture of him aged 3 and wearing a dress. And my father who was also born in 1912 also wore dresses until he was three. I was born in 1941 and never did. Though a boy about the same age as me who lived a few houses away was kept in dresses until he was about 5. But he was a rare exception and neighborhood gossip thought it was almost scandalous.

Boys up to three or so kept in dresses was not so much gender related but simple pragmatic economics and care of infants in the days of bulky nappies/diapers.
I'd suspect the "scandal" centred around his late toilet training as much as the clothes.
Make no mistake, there may be exceptions but the historical hunters and warriors were male, and boys were expected were expected to man-up to this role from a very early age.

Life is more simple that that JUST DO IT......before you die.

Certainly do it, but Mouse, we all know that life really isn't that simple for most men in skirts.
For what it's worth I find "historical and cultural" justifications more palatable than trying to hide behind the masculine image of the kilt.
Steve.