Skort Question

[Myopic Bookworm]

Fool some of the people some of the time etc.

A while ago I thought about the lack of reaction I sometimes get, and reckoned that at least half of the people who notice I am male don't notice the skirt, and at least half of the people who notice the skirt don't notice that I am male.

[crfriend]

The debate is turning full circle to its inevitable conclusion. No matter which way you dress it (pun) the skort is more of a skirt than it is a pair of shorts.

My personal take on the "skort" is that -- like most hybrids -- combines the worst of each with none of the advantages of either. Consider, for instance, the amphibious car -- it's a lousy boat and an even worse motor vehicle, but it can do some of both -- at a high price.

With the "skort" you get all the problems of shorts and all of the problems with skirts (especially the ridicule problem for guys) with none of the charms of either. About the only advantage is that the shorts portion is likely colour-coordinated with the skirt portion so would be useful where flashing might be a problem, e.g. in sport.

The reason the skirt not gaining popularity among men is because it is feminine and that undermines men's perceived masculinity.
What does that tell us about what it means to be masculine? How can something so tough be so fragile?

It tells me that men are no longer truly masculine but have been shoved into the 4th-rate parody of machismo, and machismo is largely the antithesis of masculinity.

[Grok]

Camouflage and stealth yes, but it will still be a skirt and it will get seen for what it is.
Fool some of the people some of the time etc.
Steve.

When women began to wear culottes ("divided skirts") they were able to get away with it. A panel hid the divide at the crotch; the silhouette of the garment resembled a skirt. It was a legal fiction that these weren't just trousers for women-the illusion of a skirt made it acceptable to men.

[Skirt18220]

I do normally buy skirts. I just get most of my skirts at a second hand store, was in looking and found several skorts. The full skirt kind. They had pockets, usable pockets. Very hard to find in skirts.
I am currently learning to put pockets in skirts with seams. Kilts, well you need some kind of bag be it a sporan or a purse.

[FranTastic444]

Right, time to add to the confusion

I was holidaying out on The Cape (Chatham) when I was distracted by a woman next to me smoothing out what looked very much like a garment that was a skirt at the front and shorts at the rear. It was on the shorter side and looked from the rear and side like running shorts (with a small slit down the side). When I was back home I tried to find something similar and came up short (pun intended) on my go-to website (Amazon).

<As an aside> I'm sure I've seen others (either on this thread or elsewhere) describe skorts with a short appearance at the back and a skirt appearance at the front - so I'd assumed that I'd be able to find a match. If anyone could point me in the direction of a link to any examples, I'd appreciate it </As an aside>

After further investigations it now has me wondering whether I actually witnessed the wearing of (what I understand to be somewhat of a fashion must-have this year) - butterfly shorts? Given that, by their very nature, skorts are a bifurcated garment (the underlayer at least) I'm asking myself whether there is any appreciable difference between a skort where the outer layer is a skirt and butterfly shorts where the outer layer is a pair of shorts, albeit "flowy" and having the appearance of looking like a skirt? Would men be any more willing to wear butterfly shorts than skorts? (I doubt it )

[Uncle Al]

As an alternative to 'the skort', I've successfully worn a swim-skirt paired with a 'tank-top'.
The swim-skirt has a built-in brief which provides all sorts of modesty

Uncle Al

[rode_kater]

<As an aside> I'm sure I've seen others (either on this thread or elsewhere) describe skorts with a short appearance at the back and a skirt appearance at the front - so I'd assumed that I'd be able to find a match. If anyone could point me in the direction of a link to any examples, I'd appreciate it </As an aside>

I think you saw something like this: https://www.zalando.nl/levis-skort-jean ... 0-k12.html

It's basically a pair of shorts with a flap across the front. They were *very* common around here this summer.

[Barleymower]

It's not just overcoming the taboo of men wearing a piece of cloth around their waist. There's a whole world of problems to consider.
Apostle Gino Jennings explains:
https://youtu.be/NZuNQlXWfpA?feature=shared

[Modoc]

I find it funny that the narrator suggests that the main point of attraction ro his version of Christianity is fear. In reality more and more people are rejecting that message in favor of an approach that revolves around love and acceptance. And to that I say Amen.

[TheEngineer]

Stevie my question seems to be lost in the ether. What about a skort kilt? Would that work?

Responding to the question of whether a "skort kilt" would work. Personally I don't think so mainly for reasons of practical garment design. I wear both skorts and kilts but think of them as totally different garments fulfilling different needs.
What I like about skorts is their practicality. They are usually short, they just pull on easily and quickly, and the undershorts provide both modesty cover and (usually) some support. I find them incredibly comfy and practical and rarely need to wear an additional undergarment.

What I like about kilts is they way they fit, functioning like a "wrap skirt" where the front, whether it is a flat front apron or with pleats all the way across, passes over an inner apron and both parts fasten at the opposite sides with buttons, snaps or straps. This highly practical arrangement allows "seasonal variations" in size and weight to be easily accommodated by adjustment. Deep joy. Attaching inner shorts to this garment is fraught with design difficulty and I am not sure it could be easily accomplished without destroying some of the essential characteristics of the kilt or resulting in discomfort.

My experience with kilts is mainly with utility or hybrid kilts, nearly always from the female or unisex selection, and made to measure to wear hipster fashion on the hip and sit a bit above the knee. I am 5ft 10in tall, and 17 inches is my ideal length. I like to choose undergear that suits the weather, my mood and what I am doing that day. Sometimes something brief and lacy, sometimes longer like cycle shorts or (my favourite) safety shorts with a lace hem, or sometimes leggings or opaque tights.

Whereas my skorts, which are all of the "skirt with shorts under" variety, sometimes pleated, sometimes plain (rather than the modern fashion twist of shorts with a skirted front panel) are usually shorter because that's what is commonly sold. Amazon is full of them. And I usually wear them as is with no other underwear and I find the attached shorts do everything that I need. Having said that I have been known to get needle and thread to make a simple alteration by shortening the gusset to provide better support and wearing pleasure. I find them incredibly comfy and practical, easy to just "throw on", a joy to wear and very practical when visiting the outhouse (by just lifting one leg of the shorts!).

I'd much rather keep the skort and the kilt separate since they do quite different things for me.
Anyone else feel the same way?

[Mouse]

I am with you Stu and keep things as what they are. Having said that I am currently loving trying petticoats under different skirts.

I have only one skirt with attached shorts, or granny panties as I see the quite thin material. I have not yet decided whether to convert the shorts to an under skirt.

I have no interest in the skort where it is a pair of shorts with an apron.