Coder wrote: ↑Tue Jul 06, 2021 7:46 pm
From the article:
Furthermore, over a year after the initial outbreak in Wuhan, there is still no clear evidence of zoonotic transfer from a bat or intermediate species. Given the immense social and economic impact of this pandemic, identifying the true origin of SARS-CoV-2 is fundamental to preventing future outbreaks. The search for SARS-CoV-2′s origin should include an open and unbiased inquiry into a possible laboratory origin.
I think the single most frustrating thing about the outbreak - when it started - was the reflexive "No, it didn't come from a lab" yet at the same time "we need to gather more data to know where it came from". I'm not saying what it's origins were, but I find it frustrating that we are told to "OBEY, BELIEVE science", yet a gut "no, it wasn't from a lab" is sufficient. Scientists aren't infallible, they make mistakes, and a viral pathogen escaping a lab isn't impossible. It may be highly improbable, it may be a thing of science fiction books... but then so is a global pandemic.
IMHO, it probably doesn't matter - I'd love to know the truth, but if this did escape from a lab, do you think the lab would release the information that would implicate them? Who would be responsible? The country funding the lab? The country hosting the lab? The equipment manufacturer? Not even a single country could address the financial implications of the pandemic across the world. A single person or group could be held responsible, but what then? Public executions? History books with their names written as the instigators? Their net worth could hardly make up for the scope of devastation this virus (and our reaction) wrought on the world.
Do you think knowing would improve safety protocols? I'm 100% sure just the fact there's a small (.000001%?) possibility this could have been an escaped pathogen, labs, manufacturers, and safety organizations will be thinking about this possibility for years to come.
Ultimately the reason we need to know - and need to know the real reason - is to prevent future outbreaks.
As indicated before, I've been doing quit a bit of reading up on the matter. From what I have read, it's not the first lab leak, SARS was one, Mers also, I even saw polio and a few others mentioned (didn't have time (yet) to check is all out). One thing that is know, is that all files of Dr Shi, the one conducting the experiment, AKA Batlady, were ceased by the Chinese government. Also there is concensus on that the experiments weren't conducted in the BSL-4 labs, the most secure, but in the BSL-2 labs sitting nearby the market were all would have begun. As is indicated in the article, the virus is altered probably by means of humanised mice.... there is no direct link between covid and virusses carried by the bats.... etc.
My gutfeeling is that we don't know s..t about the virus. I do think we have to be darn carefull and respect the physical distances, working from home etc. even when such is not requires by the officials. We have to bear in mind that ven vaccinated one can be contagious, but the common feeling, or at least what is indicated by officials, is that if you are touched by Covid when vaccinated you will not become so ill as when not vaccinated.
At this very moment there imho to many unanswered questions, also with the lasted on the new mutation of Peru. Will the present vaccins cope with new/unknown mutations, how many times do we need to be vaccinated. I do think we can agree on the fact that we will be confronted with covid for many years decades save its origin. With unpredictable mutations.
Another question is in what extend has the Neurenberg treaty been breached by the scientists involved?
I wouldn't be surprised if the consequences of this virus and its strains, will realise in a very short period what all enviromentalists want to achieve in 30 years or more.
