crfriend wrote: ↑Sat Jun 26, 2021 2:43 pm
[...] OR IS IT? In the last few weeks I've just pushed the envelope a little further with regards to certain family and even my employer. It's been a week now, and nobody is asking me what my "preferred pronouns are".
That's because they know you. My point is that the continual conflation by the press of unrelated matters to what one adorns himself with only steers the ignorant, and right now the ignorant are in the vast majority.
But it's
not the press. The press is simply reporting on the situation as it's presented to them. If there is a man in a skirt who identified as a man in a skirt, then in most cases, it seems that is how the press reports it, and we have plenty of articles here to illustrate this. If the subject person in the article is identifying under some type of trans, non-binary, fluid/queer label, then the press simply reports it thusly.
As I've stated in other threads, yes, journalism always has a hint of bias and agenda regardless of how well intentioned the journalist is, but I do believe that for the most part, if the subject person declares that "I am a MAN in a skirt", then
that's what will be reported. Now his lawyer may advise him to play a card such as "non-binary" for legal reasons. If he chooses to do so, that's his business. But given the exact wording of BOSTOCK vs CLAYTON COUNTY GEORGIA, I don't even think that would be necessary.
The press may pick up on an organization such as the ACLU using transgender terminology in order to win a given case, because that's simply the easiest method to do so. But again, this isn't "
the press", rather it's just the press reporting on the legal maneuvering of the lawyers in a given situation in order to manifest the desired result (in this case, not being fired).
It's not a perfect answer, but we don't live in a perfect world. Sometimes we just have to be creative when dealing with problems to solve.
But to bring this back around, there are plenty of articles floating around out there that highlight good old fashioned "men wearing skirts", in the traditional masculine context. And yes, we have plenty of articles floating the trans idea, just like we have religious articles, and atheist articles, we have articles of people who like broccoli, and article so people who think eating broccoli is a sin.
You won't stop certain "male skirt wearers" from considering themselves "non-binary", mainly because that's how they
see themselves. Again, it's not the press.. this is how they see themselves, and the press is reporting on it.
I don't know man, I think you and I both are kinda shouting into the wind here. I guess it is what it is. I just hate that this thing seems to be having a profound [and somewhat negative] impact on you. All I'd ask is for you to just not lose yourself to this man, don't let this matter consume you, don't let is ruin your sense of happiness and contentment over who you are, because you're Carl, one of the last few gentlemen left in the world, highly principled, ethical, and man of good judgement. I'd hate to see this thing eat away at you.
You know what you are, don't worry about what the world says. They
don't know you.
crfriend wrote: ↑Sat Jun 26, 2021 4:04 pm
[1] Omitted from the list are gender-normative heterosexual men and women. Women currently enjoy a decent choice in what they wear and nobody makes undue assumptions about them; not so men.
Are gender-normative heterosexual men going to be eternally excluded from the club of the privileged?
No. At least not in my experience. Every once in a while I cross paths with someone who thinks I might be transitioning, and if they ask, I just tell them I'm not, and then they say, "oh, okay." And that's the end of it. Maybe more people assumed I'm some sort of "failed attempt at a trans-woman", meh... whatever.
I know what I am. The fact is, nobody wanted to share in my life before I started wearing feminine clothes, and that sentiment doesn't seem to have changed. So in all actuality, this practice of mine seems to have had no real measurable consequence on my life, save for maybe being a little more comfortable and pleased with my appearance.
Also, another point I'd like to bring up [again] from previous postings/thoughts:
It seems the source of many-a-member's angst with regards to this whole "media reporting on the trans thing" seems to stem from our overall desire to have male skirt wearing more widely adopted by men. Well, I understand that being associated with being "transgender" may prevent some men from taking the skirt wearing leap, but speaking for myself, I really couldn't care less if men in the great unwashed take up this practice or not. I'm not here to proselytize male skirt wearing to anyone. Lord knows I basically do this alone here in my region, I have no [local] "male skirt wearing" community to fall back on, it's just me... the lone wolf. And that's fine, I've been the lone wolf for my entire life anyway.. nothing new under the sun here.
I'm fully well aware that my outfits are jarring to many both in the male skirt wearing world, transgender world, and just the normal mundane world alike. Despite there being thousands of photographs of me floating around out there, you won't find me featured in one of those articles like Mark is, or elsewhere. I'm a short, fat, pale, balding white guy who wears eccentric and colorful "granny" skirts, tops, and shoes, but with a hillbilly hat. My style doesn't generate a lot of fans. But that's okay, I don't do this to win fans, or to have the world cast roses before my feet. I do this because I like the person I see in the mirror when I do. I don't do this to be "an ambassador" for gender freedom for anyone. Lord knows, if I wanted to be popular among my locale, I'd wear normal clothes and start attending church.
Perhaps that's one reason these trans things really don't bother me. Trust me, when you're as out of touch, out of style, odd ball and fugly as I am, nobody is clamoring to have you in their circle, cis, trans, or otherwise!