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oldsalt1 wrote: Sun Jun 28, 2020 12:59 pmJust maybe if he was able to have a slight chance of getting fair media representation he would be able to nix his present methods of trying to get his message out.
I'd say the media presentation is reasonably accurate. He's been in the media for many years, and very little has changed over time.

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oldsalt1 wrote: Sun Jun 28, 2020 12:59 pm Just maybe if he was able to have a slight chance of getting fair media representation
You mentioned this before in a reply to one of my posts, but you didn't follow it up with an explanation.  The press here (UK), both left and right leaning, have reported as verbatim some of his comments which showed he was ignorant to an almost unbelieveable degree, showed him boasting of having assaulted women, showed him as an aggressive bully and showed him to be a liar.

Are you saying he did not make those comments and the press have fabricated it -- or are you saying there are other comments that were omitted that would have presented a completely different picture of him?  What is it that 'fair media representation' would have done differently?
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Without going into detail The media in this country is extremely liberal and left leaning. They have been openly against President Trump since he started to run for office.

To be blunt if he found a cure for cancer they would blame him for putting Doctors out of work.

If President Trumps son had done what Biden's son did he would have been crucified. Yet there was hardly a mention

There was a major attempt to impeach President Trump for a supposed phone call . But Biden told a country to get rid of someone who was investigating his son or we would hold up money.. He gave them 6 hours and his threat was pubically recorded but nothing is ever said.

With the exception of most info from FOX I can not find a news source that has given him a fair shake.

I am sure that you have places where you can find the political rating news sources Go on one and ask about all of the services that you read for your info. Ask if they are pro or anti Trump than ask me the above question again
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With respect Dan, how would you know all that if not for the media?

Thus how can you say "the media is left leaning" when you yourself are quoting Trump praise and Biden scorn sourced from none other than...

... the media?!?!

Are you implying that Fox is not "the media"?

What gives here?
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moonshadow wrote: Sun Jun 28, 2020 3:51 pmWhat gives here?
We have exited the realm of the rational and entered the realm of fantasy. In short, we have entered the realm of religion and belief where rational thought and analysis have no place.

Welcome to the new Dark Age.
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crfriend wrote: Sun Jun 28, 2020 3:53 pm Welcome to the new Dark Age.
Indeed. I get the paper every day, and despite the fact that its market is highly conservative it's often accused of being a "liberal rag" from locals.

Frankly I seldom see a headline on Biden. As for Trump... they basically report what he says and does.

I guess they're not supposed to do that.
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moonshadow wrote: Sun Jun 28, 2020 4:01 pmFrankly I seldom see a headline on Biden. As for Trump... they basically report what he says and does.
Likely in all its hideous and disgusting detail -- and yet his core, the Church of Trump (CoT) still revere him as their saviour when a rational analysis points to a narcissistic man-child with a vastly sub-par IQ who suffers from an absolute failure in child-rearing.
I guess they're not supposed to do that.
Of course not.

Now, before anybody thinks I'm a frother for Biden let me set the record straight. I am not. He will be as bad as the incumbent for the common man. Precisely the only difference will be that at least Biden seems housebroken. The outcome of this "election" is going to be as much of a farce as the last one, and may quite possibly be the last one held. This pains me more than the reader can know. I love the country I grew up in; however, the country has moved on without me. I did not forsake my country, my country forsook me. All on the altar of simple human greed.
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oldsalt1 wrote: Sun Jun 28, 2020 3:45 pm ... They have been openly against President Trump since he started to run for office.
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Ask if they are pro or anti Trump than ask me the above question again
I don't want to know their opinions, they are not relevant to me.  I haven't made any comment on the opinions of the press, only on the words and actions of Donald Trump as reported by the media and I have formed my own opinion of him based on that.

So I will ask the question again:  Have those media reports of the facts been untrue - and, if so, are they lies, or lies of omission?
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Dan

Across all channels and across the globe, Trump is a laughing stock. You do not need left leaning media to see this. I note that the BBC - pretty impartial- today notes Trump tweeting someone shouting”white power”

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-53212685

That’s really not good. Does Merkel do this? Xingping? Macron? Trudeau?

No.

Trump’s a cretin. I said before. The GOP is better than this. The USA is better than this.

This is not about left, right, or party. It’s about an individual who is unhinged. That cannot be right for any country let alone the USA.
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Ray wrote: Sun Jun 28, 2020 8:00 pmTrump’s a cretin. I said before. The GOP is better than this. The USA is better than this
Even my friends who voted for him - and will likely vote for him again - his juvenile tweets are an embarrassment, and without exception they have all expressed the wish that someone would take his phone away and shut down his twitter account.
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Ralph wrote: Sun Jun 28, 2020 8:27 pm
Ray wrote: Sun Jun 28, 2020 8:00 pmTrump’s a cretin. I said before. The GOP is better than this. The USA is better than this
Even my friends who voted for him - and will likely vote for him again - his juvenile tweets are an embarrassment, and without exception they have all expressed the wish that someone would take his phone away and shut down his twitter account.
Then why.... why for the love of God do they STILL plan to give that man a vote???

Can't your friends see through his charade? Do you really think he carries the so called "holy spirit" in his heart? Do you really think he gives a rats ass about abortions? Do you think he really cares about your God or your evangelicalism? Do you honestly think he was sent by God? Do you think he really cares about your children, your grandchildren, etc?

He knows this county hates itself and he's playing us all for fools!

He divides. Every. Single. Tweet. he pens is one of division!
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I'll tell y'all this much, I don't know how this nation will vote come November, but I know how southwest Virginia and Tennessee will vote... TRUMP ALL THE WAY 100%

That's cool, ain't nobody here [in my region] have sh!t to say to me about how I live my life. I've made a lot of mistakes in my life, and regrets, I have my share, but I ain't no Trumpie. I may not have much to show for the effort of my life, but at least I have my soul...
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moonshadow wrote: Sun Jun 28, 2020 9:46 pmI may not have much to show for the effort of my life, but at least I have my soul...
You have your soul and conscience as your solace. Those of us who are truly successful manage to change the world in positive ways; these are the folks who are fondly remembered after they are gone. Those who have had negative impacts -- unless they are truly egregious -- tend to be forgotten or, in some cases, laughed at when they fall.

Like Moon, I spent much of a decade doing field service work. It was an incredibly demanding position, but one that also was incredibly rewarding. Nobody is so unhappy as the customer who has a malfunctioning piece of kit that's costing them money whilst it's dead in the water. So, a good field engineer gets to play the hero much of the time when he puts the wrong things right and everything becomes normal again, I am sure that Moon may likely be revered by some of the clientele he's had over the years, and he may not be aware of it. But, in that capacity, he will be remembered.

It's the gentle ones who are remembered most fondly.

I received the most astonishing e-mail this morning from a chap out in Seattle, WA whom long ago I offered help, assistance, and gentle guidance to. He thanked me in no uncertain terms for my contribution to his knowledge of the hardware in question -- and I have never felt so humbled. To know that I actually changed the course of events -- even if only for a few moments -- was amazing. And I'm glad it happened.

Never abandon nor betray your heart and soul. For, if you do, you are no more than the lowest thing in existence.

To crib the lyric from ELO: "Hold on tight to your dream!" and persevere.
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Indeed, we may never know the lives we've touched. A simple kind gesture to a total stranger may be remembered by that person a year in the future as he or she pays it forward.

I know some Trump people have good hearts and souls.. I know this because there are several on this site that I admire, but in the matter of Trump, I vex over how they can be so blind??

I get it.. they don't approve of what they conceive "socialism" to be (never mind it keeps a roof over their own heads and food on their tables), I understand the desire to align with a pro-life candidate, I understand their allegiance to traditional America, I understand that they may just hold Republican values... I respect that...

Please... please then, if you can't vote for Biden, at least write someone else in, give it to a third party if you must. A vote for Trump is a vote for pure concentrated evil.

I don't know of Biden will destroy the country, but I'm certain Trump will endeavor to do so.

Thousands and thousands of people have died already due to among other things, his negligence. His response "I don't take responsibility".

HE DOESN'T CARE ABOUT ANY OF YOU!

OPEN YOUR EYES!

DAN: He doesn't give a sh!t about your country or your flag, he's never even served a day on active duty anywhere. This is nothing more than a marketing gimmick to him. He's just branding the Trump name. He'd just assume to let you die. You ain't nothing but chopped sh!t to him.

He only CLAIMS to love people if they LOVE HIM!
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moonshadow wrote: Sun Jun 28, 2020 11:39 pmI know some Trump people have good hearts and souls.. I know this because there are several on this site that I admire, but in the matter of Trump, I vex over how they can be so blind??
One word: "religion".
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