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General discussion of skirt and kilt-based fashion for men, and stuff that goes with skirts and kilts.
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Evolution happens around us all the time.... Consider these low hanging trousers, could it be that *this* is the group that will someday simply cut away the crotch and suddenly skirts for men will be in vogue?
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For those in Ayrshire (Scotland), there is a similar hill called "Electric Brae" where cars also appear to free-wheel uphill.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_Brae

This seems to be another optical illusion but I have heard that water actually flows uphill there in a science based programme investigating it.
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I have never had any kids disrespect me for wearing denim skirts. The farthest I have seen is for a little girl to ask if I am a boy or a girl (that was when I had shoulder-length hair).

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JRMILLER wrote:Evolution happens around us all the time.... Consider these low hanging trousers, could it be that *this* is the group that will someday simply cut away the crotch and suddenly skirts for men will be in vogue?
Nice thought, JRM, and as likely as any other way. Teenagers are always on the lookout for something new and different from the crowd. So all we older folk have to do is invade their fashion space, trouser-crotch down between the knees, and they will be forced to move on to something else. Maybe it would work!
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Aye kids, they are not afraid to comment. I drive a school bus and transport about 90 kids K thru 9, and every time I don one of my 2 utilikilts, there is always at least one. Now most of them think its cool and others keep their comments quiet. But the younger ones are always asking why I wear a skirt, of course no matter what my answer is they still don't get it. True there aren't many of us in the mountains of Virginia wearing kilts, but I'm havn fun. Our Presbyterian church is fond of my 2 tartans, so that is what I wear when the weather permits. The process of getting people used to men in skirts is slow here, but progress is being made.
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I have worn my Kilt out a couple of times and i have worn a Jean Skirt out as well but my wife didn't like it too much. I had a lot of stares and some comments from young girls. just ignored them for the most part. Wife was more embarrassed than i was,(not saying i was) I just can not wait for society to change to the point it becomes normal.
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Hemitom wrote:I have worn my Kilt out a couple of times and i have worn a Jean Skirt out as well but my wife didn't like it too much. I had a lot of stares and some comments from young girls. just ignored them for the most part. Wife was more embarrassed than i was,(not saying i was) I just can not wait for society to change to the point it becomes normal.
Unfortunately we are the guys who are going to have to effect the change in the world we want to see. No one else is going to do it for us, sadly!!!
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renesm1 wrote:
Hemitom wrote:I have worn my Kilt out a couple of times and i have worn a Jean Skirt out as well but my wife didn't like it too much. I had a lot of stares and some comments from young girls. just ignored them for the most part. Wife was more embarrassed than i was,(not saying i was) I just can not wait for society to change to the point it becomes normal.
Unfortunately we are the guys who are going to have to effect the change in the world we want to see. No one else is going to do it for us, sadly!!!
Just as women had to assert their right to wear pants about 80 years ago. Back in the 1930's women were given a lot more grief for wearing pants than men ever are for wearing skirts or dresses in this current age.

So it is up to the men to "man up" and expand their clothing options.

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The kids are the key. If there is ever to be a shift in attitude it will come from the younger generations. We are the torch carriers but that is only a small beginning, think acorns and oaks.
In my own journey I have received as much support from people similar in age to my children as from my own generation.
A quote from my son age 23, " skirts for men will become a norm before the beginning of the next decade". Believe this, he does not say such things to please or because of his Dad's preferences.
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Hemitom wrote:I have worn my Kilt out a couple of times and i have worn a Jean Skirt out as well but my wife didn't like it too much. I had a lot of stares and some comments from young girls. just ignored them for the most part. Wife was more embarrassed than i was,(not saying i was) I just can not wait for society to change to the point it becomes normal.
Anytime I have worn my denim skirts (virtually all the time in the summer) most people don't seem to notice or care. I have had negative comments from only four people.

When I was on a contracting assignment I stayed at a motel where there were several blue collar tradesmen staying. We would stand around, drink beer, and shoot the breeze. I never got any flak from any of them, and I even got a question,"Do you wear skirts to church?" I said, no because I felt it would disrupt the worship service too much. Then they told me I should feel free to wear skirts to church since that was such a part of me.

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STEVIE wrote: A quote from my son age 23, " skirts for men will become a norm before the beginning of the next decade".
A norm?
Considering how many kilt/skirt-wearers there are that say think trousers more appropriate for various activities (fear of dirt, scratches or exposure), I can't see open garments ever becoming a norm -- they are no longer a norm for women, so why should they be for men?

Is you son a regular skirt-wearer already, Steve?

To be optimistic, we can just imagine skirts for men being seen in public more frequently , and raising less eyebrows.

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couyalair wrote: To be optimistic, we can just imagine skirts for men being seen in public more frequently , and raising less eyebrows.
It may not become the norm but we seem to be having more an acceptance of an alternative bit of clothing these days. And that is all we would really want. I haven't had any adverse criticism or bad comments over the last 2.5 years I have worn skirts (except from the wife :shock: ).

Some look back at you after you pass them, with rolling eyes :roll: and you get the very occasional open mouthed stare :shock: There was one instance where a woman in her late 60's was helping her mother with her shopping. Both stared open-mouthed, wide-eyed - I nearly went up to them to say, "My mother told me it was rude to stare!" but didn't

I do recall one instance of some lads, about to play rugby adjacent to a local supermarket where I shop, and got the impression that some of them seemed to be amused at the sight of a man in a denim miniskirt. The rest didn't seem to bother one way or the other. But these were the lowest end of the spectrum, far out-weighed by positivity from women AND men.
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The restaurants around here do not take reservations, so you normally have to spend 15 to 30 minutes standing around until your name is called from a waiting list. To avoid blocking the main entrance in one restaurant, we normally stand in the corridor leading to the rest rooms where we can still hear our name being called from the reception desk. I wore my black, 23" long, Utilikilt Mockler to dinner last Saturday and, as usual, we waited in the corridor for a table. There was apparently a group of teenage girls (perhaps 15 to 17 years old) having a party in a private room off the main dining area. One of these girls was leaving the ladies room when she saw me standing there and she quickly ducked back inside. A moment later she left with two of her girl friends and they made no effort to hide the fact that they were staring at my Utilikilt. Minutes later, a group of 8 to 10 teenage girls came charging down the corridor and ran into the ladies room. They were obviously the remainder of the party. I could hear laughter, chuckles, and screaming coming from the other side of the bathroom door. In less than a minute they all marched out from the ladies room, taking a good look as they passed by me. Not a word was uttered by any of them in the corridor and it wasn't too long before I saw the group leaving the restaurant. I don't know whether these girls were just hyperactive due to the party or if they were not as mature as would be expected. We have been in South Carolina for less than two years and have found that the relaxed life style, reduced situational exposure, and religious preferences in this region have a pronounced effect on the way that people react to occurrences that would draw little to no attention in the northern states.

A few weeks earlier, we were once again standing in the rest room corridor of the same restaurant awaiting a table. I wore a blue denim skirt that just touched the top of my knee caps (converted cargo shorts). A man in his late 30s or early 40s, with a 5 or 6 year old girl, was standing next to us. On several occasions the girl told her Dad that I was wearing a skirt and each time he replied "no, he isn't." He finally picked her up in his arms, so that she could no longer see my skirt, and said "it just looks like it." When he lifted her from the floor, he commented that she weighed a lot. She replied that she weighed 40 pounds! When I was her age, I seriously doubt that I knew (or cared) how much I weighed. I just commented to him that I didn't know my weight when I was her age and that was the extent of our conversation. His name was called shortly thereafter and he departed for his table. This was obviously a very intelligent and observant child. I would like to think that her Father's failure to acknowledge and adequately address her observations will not have an adverse impact on her development. I can only hope that a sincere Father/Daughter conversation followed the meal.

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Martin, i have to direct this to you and apologies for the lateness.
Son, of 23 years is not a skirt wearer but a proud and regular kilt wearer. More importantly, he is remarkably astute and I respect his opinions. Personally, I don't quite agree with him on the time scale, but we shall have to wait and see.
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David wrote:The restaurants around here do not take reservations, so you normally have to spend 15 to 30 minutes standing around until your name is called from a waiting list. To avoid blocking the main entrance in one restaurant, we normally stand in the corridor leading to the rest rooms where we can still hear our name being called from the reception desk. I wore my black, 23" long, Utilikilt Mockler to dinner last Saturday and, as usual, we waited in the corridor for a table. There was apparently a group of teenage girls (perhaps 15 to 17 years old) having a party in a private room off the main dining area. One of these girls was leaving the ladies room when she saw me standing there and she quickly ducked back inside. A moment later she left with two of her girl friends and they made no effort to hide the fact that they were staring at my Utilikilt. Minutes later, a group of 8 to 10 teenage girls came charging down the corridor and ran into the ladies room. They were obviously the remainder of the party. I could hear laughter, chuckles, and screaming coming from the other side of the bathroom door. In less than a minute they all marched out from the ladies room, taking a good look as they passed by me. Not a word was uttered by any of them in the corridor and it wasn't too long before I saw the group leaving the restaurant. I don't know whether these girls were just hyperactive due to the party or if they were not as mature as would be expected. We have been in South Carolina for less than two years and have found that the relaxed life style, reduced situational exposure, and religious preferences in this region have a pronounced effect on the way that people react to occurrences that would draw little to no attention in the northern states.


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A group of teenage girls would have to rate number 1 on the list of people who might laugh or make silly comments. Girls at this age and in a group would have to be the most immature demagrafic in society, with a group of teenage boys following in close second. I would not be overly concerned at their reaction as they still have a LOT of growing up to do. Moreover, if these kids reacted to a utilikilt then that shows their ignorance right there.
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