https://youtu.be/3fah6qu-0bs
An interesting "weird history" YouTube video about the crinoline fad of the Victorian era.
My question is, who here is daring enough to don one in public? *glances over towards Carl....*

The huge ones are generally from the early Victorian period of the 1850s and 1860s. Later skirts were more trim, but tended to have bustles. So we can't confuse the time-frames.
Well, since I've been called out, I candidly admit to having a petticoat with a single hoop in it, and it tends to produce an awkward look under lightweight fabrics like satin. In short, with the hoop installed, it looks like I'm wearing a honking big lampshade suspended from my waist. A full "cage" would be somewhat better, but likely not entirely compatible with the skirts I have which all date to the late Victorian period.My question is, who here is daring enough to don one in public? *glances over towards Carl....*![]()
Holy cow Carl, 160 seems pretty light weight for a man of your height. I realize I'm a tad overweight (pushing 195 +/-) for my height (5'11"). My doctor would like to see me down to around your weight... maybe 175ish....
I'm not particularly happy about it. My frame can very easily carry 200 pounds, and when I was still in secondary school I hovered around 150 -- with the appetite of a clydesdale (more than capable of putting down two large pizzas in a single sitting). Much of the 1990s was spent doing field service --like you -- so lots of time behind the wheel (literally the only place I spent more time than behind the wheel was in bed) and a diet that was awful, and I floated up to about 180 then, likely because of the muscle-mass required to haul stuff around. When I settled in with my (now late) ex-, who was a damned good cook (!) I floated up to about 205 or so and easily carried that on a skirt-size 14 (which torqued my ex- to no end).moonshadow wrote: ↑Tue Jan 05, 2021 1:44 amHoly cow Carl, 160 seems pretty light weight for a man of your height. I realize I'm a tad overweight (pushing 195 +/-) for my height (5'11"). My doctor would like to see me down to around your weight... maybe 175ish....
If you're floating up, all you can do is either up your physical activity or decrease the food intake.Covid life seems to have contributed to my weight gain... I figure it's the result of decreased physical activity during my time off, and I do tend to be a "stress eater". I gotta get back under 185 by August or the doctor's going to have my ass...
moonshadow wrote: ↑Tue Jan 05, 2021 1:44 amHoly cow Carl, 160 seems pretty light weight for a man of your height. I realize I'm a tad overweight (pushing 195 +/-) for my height (5'11"). My doctor would like to see me down to around your weight... maybe 175ish....
You mention being sedentary... that's a problem I have too, with the tens of thousands of miles I log every year behind the wheel of a work van, but that combined with the constant eating out, and c-store grabs (snacks and sodas) certainly does NOT contribute to any weight loss on my account....
I've been packing lunches since summer and for some reason put on an additional 10 lbs.
Covid life seems to have contributed to my weight gain... I figure it's the result of decreased physical activity during my time off, and I do tend to be a "stress eater". I gotta get back under 185 by August or the doctor's going to have my ass...
These are garments from a long-dead time, and from an economic class that still exists but has gone grunge. These are not the clothes of the everyday person, but rather of what was known at the time as the "Leisure Class" -- i.e. the stupidly rich. In other words, they moved around spaces that would seem cavernous to us, but which allowed such voluminous rigs to be worn.Sinned wrote: ↑Wed Jan 06, 2021 8:26 pmAnyway, back to the big skirts. Yes, they look amazing but I can imagine the impracticalities of wearing them. I couldn't do it. I'd destroy everything within 10 feet of me wearing one. So no matter how good they look I just can't see in my mind's eye me wearing one. Watching films such as "The King and I" they look amazing, but totally impractical.
I was friends wih a theatrical costumier who 'borrowed' from stock, and wore to a dance festival, a dress that had been made for the back row of the chorus of Carmen. It was made of massively heavy material with a chain-weighted hem and was over-circular. That evening in the pub, someone asked her to do a twirl -- the skirt came out horizontal and the hem cleared a tablefull of beer glasses. It cost her a lot of replacement drinks.
Actually, a "cage" was a whole lot lighter and cooler than layered petticoats. The latter could always be deployed during cold weather, but in hot weather, the crinoline must have been a godsend for the wearer of those enormous skirts,
Sitting in a chair is moderately easy, do so at 90 degrees from the back and "perch" on the edge of it.rivegauche wrote: ↑Sat Jan 09, 2021 7:53 pmAS well as the difficulties of sitting in a car or a chair - how would you get through a door in a modern house?!!