Indeed, it is not.crfriend wrote: ↑Fri Nov 29, 2019 3:16 pmMy notion of "observable and demonstrable harm" was specifically aimed at a harmless behaviour that will have no negative consequence for a partner, e.g. in this case skirt-wearing by the guy. That this may cause pain for the female partner is honest enough, and we need to be sensitive to that, but it's not a reason for the woman to mentally abuse the man over the matter.
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I conjure an image of Daryl walking down the street, whistling a tune in his skirt. He passes a house and right as he walks by the whole side of the building crumbles to the ground revealing a man dressed as Ronald McDonald rolling around in feces.Daryl wrote: ↑Sat Nov 30, 2019 5:47 amNow if I found out about it by pure chance, like the side fell off his building while I was walking by and there he was, I'd think "he's entitled to be weird" and let it go, but honestly I can't be sure that it wouldn't subconsciously colour my perceptions a little.
The clown stops and looks at Daryl, Daryl is looking at him, both with a surprised look on their faces. Daryl speaks,
"Do you have a job?"
"Yes I do." The clown replies, feces dripping off his arms.
Daryl vexes over what he is witnessing, looks back up at the clown...
Two restaurants are now ruined...
"Speak not but what may benefit others or yourself; avoid trifling conversation." - Benjamin Franklin
Yup, either "carry on" or "as you were". No sense in dallying to talk about the amazingly unusualy event we'd just witnessed; none at all.
I wore a Utilikilt around my (now) wife shortly after our dating got serious. She's fine with most of my weirdness...Daryl wrote: ↑Sat Nov 30, 2019 5:47 amYou and I are both blessed with great wives. Mine is upfront with me when I go outside of her comfort zone. I never consider it "controlling" even though I am sure that by informing me of her discomfort she expects me to at least take her feelings into account in some way. It's always when I myself feel I am pressing the limits anyway.
The men I feel sorry for are the ones for whom any escape from the man-box will come as a total surprise to their spouse. My wife knew from the beginning that I was experimental in every way, and we had a truly diverse group of common acquaintances. My only advice is to not get married or have children if you have kept secrets (usually to enhance your dating/mating prospects). Start out with a lie and the rewards are painful. No amount of "rights" logic can get around that.
Lies and secrets always come back to cause problems. It may take a long time, but eventually it will.
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I'm not sure about that. https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Bi ... -The-Lord/
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That, and "Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned."skirtyscot wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 10:52 pmI'm not sure about that. https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Bi ... -The-Lord/
Umm... Don't date/marry anyone with a god complex?skirtyscot wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 10:52 pmI'm not sure about that. https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Bi ... -The-Lord/
But seriously, anyone in a relationship where they are afraid of their significant other, is in an abusive relationship. If it was a woman trembling at the thought of going home to her boyfriend, no one should question this assessment. Just because it's a man afraid of his wife, suddenly people don't see it. In reality, it's the same thing.
Exactly. A relationship built around deception is doomed.Dust wrote: Lies and secrets always come back to cause problems. It may take a long time, but eventually it will.