Re: Cultural Appropriation?
Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2022 1:33 am
Utility kilts are too new to be anybody's tradition. And if you look closely, it is obvious that utility kilts are not especially similar to traditional kilts.
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Wow. Just wow. You got a lot to unpack.Myopic Bookworm wrote: ↑Thu Nov 10, 2022 3:58 pmAgainst the ubiquity. I protest against a society in which people are so lacking in individuality or initiative that they all wear blue jeans like a uniform. To wear blue jeans is to capitulate to the global dominance of American culture, its uniformity, its rejection of everyday style and embrace of a shared inelegance. I avoid cola and McDonald's for the same reason. It's the same kind of cultural hegemony that assumes that all men like football and cars (and trousers!), and that everyone watches television shows and Hollywood movies, listens to popular music, and follows celebrities in the popular media.ScotL wrote: ↑Thu Nov 10, 2022 11:50 amBlue jeans are ubiquitous. ... Which one of these cultures is your silent protest against?Myopic Bookworm wrote: ↑Thu Nov 10, 2022 10:03 am I don't wear blue jeans because they are a cultural marker of a culture I don't want to be associated with.)
(I am, of course, inconsistent, hypocritical, and exaggerating!)
I think utility kilts are a great invention. A manly skirt (yes, kilts are a wrap skirt, we need to get over that hang up, I’ll say no more about it) that is accepted by manly men. Enough similarity to a traditional kilt to bring in the “Braveheart” sense but not so dressy to require hose, brogues, Jacobite shirts or short suit coats.
Other than the big external pockets (which I am not a fan of) and the material, the utility kilts I have are pretty similar to my regular kilts in terms of the main features (rear pleats, side buckles, front apron).
Myopic Bookworm wrote: ↑Tue Nov 08, 2022 10:26 pm Not sure whether to laugh or cry at this combination of bigotry and ignorance.
I've had people start dropping comments about Scotland when I wear a utility kilt: I've generally just ignored it.
I honestly don’t know why it’s even discussed. If someone called my pants dungarees or jeans and they weren’t, I couldn’t care less. Calling a skirt a kilt seems like such a trivial thing. Why does anyone care? If men were magically deemed accepted wearing skirts but only if they were called a kilt, would that stop anyone? If it did, why? At the end of the day, don’t we just care to be able to wear whatever we please regardless of what it’s called?Myopic Bookworm wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 12:02 pm Calling a skirt a kilt is sometimes just being cautious about saying the wrong thing: like us Brits hearing an accent and asking if someone is Canadian, since if they do happen to be Canadian they'll be really happy at being recognized, and if they're American they might be surprised but they probably won't be bothered.
Who the hell died and made her the culture police??Dust wrote: ↑Tue Nov 08, 2022 8:22 pm So I was recently accused of "cultural appropriation" by a woman (who was wearing jeans at the time) at a party. I was in a khaki Utilikilt. She seemed to have no real understanding that this was not a "traditional Scottish kilt" but just saw kilt and thought that I must be wearing it out of Scottish pride. When I told her I wasn't Scottish and just liked it (comfort, etc.) she thought this was unacceptable! She even felt the need to tell me that it was "a kilt not a skirt"!
Awesome rant! I can understand people of a culture not appreciating another culture doing something that mocks their culture. But I was always raised to say “imitation is the highest form of flattery”. I think we’d all be a better world if we did “walk a mile in each other’s shoes”.moonshadow wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 11:48 am ...cultural appropriation..
What kind of woke bullsh!t is this..? I had to look it up!
Cultural appropriation is the inappropriate or unacknowledged adoption of an element or elements of one culture or identity by members of another culture or identity
That just crawls all over me.
So basically Dust, you can't wear a kilt becasue that would be imitating Scots..
You can't wear a skirt becasue that would be imitating women, or at the very least trans-women or cross dressers, which most people here arent..aren't...
I guess you can't eat Chinese food, Mexican, Vietnamese, etc...
Tell me.... are you allowed to be a regular American cowboy?
Maybe she might b!tch about my hat because I'm not a real hillbilly?
I was raised in single wide trailers so I guess the only thing I'm allowed to do is buy my food with food stamps, drink mountain dew and shoot up meth.. I mean, isn't that what we call "plain white trash culture"?? That's why I am after all....
What a load of crap. ... cultural appropriation.. sounds like people who think their sh!t don't stink to me.
"You can not imitate me peasant! I am better than you! I am of a more pure bloodline than you...! I have pedigree, you're just garbage, and garbage has no place imitating me!"
What audacity. Wear what you want and to hell with her!
Don't we all.... I need to work on it too, though it's hard when someone is that rude. And it is rude. People really need to learn to mind their own business.