A lovely kilt surprise

Kilt-based fashions, both traditional and contemporary. Come on guys, bring on the pleats!

Re: A lovely kilt surprise

Postby crfriend » Sat Nov 10, 2018 12:48 pm

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Gentlemen, please calm down for a few minutes and reflect some of the basic tenets of this place. The conversation is getting a bit too personal.

What's worse is that everybody is right and what's being argued is semantics and amounts to splitting hairs.


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From this writer's perspective, and here I'm writing in the capacity of an individual contributor and not in any sort of official capacity, The Kilt is a very specific and specialised form of skirted garment, worthy of its special title by virtue of its genesis and history. Note that I usually refer to the form as a proper noun, hence the capitalisation (note that "skirt" is a common noun and hence not capitalised). Calling The Kilt a skirt merely insults Kilt wearers and is impolite at best.

I thought this was a solved matter.
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Re: A lovely kilt surprise

Postby weeladdie18 » Sat Nov 10, 2018 7:07 pm

Thank You Carl for your Post...Fair Comment ....all noted...my irelevant posting to Ray's thread
now closed...weeladdie
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Re: A lovely kilt surprise

Postby Sinned » Sun Nov 11, 2018 9:36 pm

Sorry Carl, not getting personal but someone seems to be denying a very basic definition and I can't let that rest. He wants me to cite a source.

Mirriam-Webster Dictionary: "1. : a knee-length pleated skirt usually of tartan worn by men in Scotland and by Scottish regiments in the British armies
2 : a garment that resembles a Scottish kilt"

Oxford Dictionary: "A garment resembling a knee-length skirt of pleated tartan cloth, traditionally worn by men as part of Scottish Highland dress and now also worn by women and girls."

I don't have to air my views on any kilt forum. I have only one kilt and would only wear it for a specific occasion. I have a sporran but haven't worn it and I don't have the rest of the outfit because I'm not interested in dressing up as a Scotsman. I'm not a member of any kilt forum and have no interest in joining any. In fact I'm not really interested in kilts at all. I am only responding because someone seems to be in denial. I'll say no more. Shtum. I can be PM'd.
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Re: A lovely kilt surprise

Postby crfriend » Sun Nov 11, 2018 10:21 pm

Sinned wrote:Sorry Carl, not getting personal but someone seems to be denying a very basic definition and I can't let that rest. He wants me to cite a source.

The demand for a citation is usually an early indicator that things are going to run off the rails because (1) the one demanding the citation usually has his mind already made up and (2) the citation(s) will go unread. See some of my political commentary which was backed up with a litany of citations all of which were summarily ignored by one particular antagonist. Sometimes it's just easier to shut up and let the matter drop. Ignorance is trivially cured; stupidity is terminal.
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Re: A lovely kilt surprise

Postby lazerr » Mon Nov 12, 2018 3:50 pm

I'm finding that the best way to handle these "off the rails" situations where no actual dialog is being achieved is to stop responding. I've read that this is easier said than done, expecially with very you ng people who have grown up online.

For me, however, it is easy to just drop the conversation when it gets too much. Of course, many times the damage is done with just one bad comment.
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Re: A lovely kilt surprise

Postby Sinned » Mon Nov 12, 2018 7:03 pm

Actually it was a kilt surprise to me too. It was bought by MOH for me. Why, I don't know as I've never had the occasion to wear it. There is a person at church who is Scottish and wears his kilt sometimes so I thought that maybe that would be one occasion and introduce the notion of skirt wearing.
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