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The second article catalogued the various times celebrities skirted the issueIt’s part of a growing trend of fashion that subverts traditional gender norms, with various male-identifying celebrities opting for skirts this year.
In March, actor Oscar Isaac wore a grey skirt suit by New York-based brand Thom Browne – similar to Taika’s, but midi-length – at the London premiere of the film Moon Knight. Pete Davidson chose Browne, whose tailoring and skirts are a signature, to make his white skirt suit for the 2021 Met Gala.
Obviously it's being noticed as a trend - but what kind of trend I cannot say. Trying to remain positive, and not go to the negative.
Agreed - not something I would wear on my own, but if I had to dress formally in it I would not complain (erm, but the shoes, not those shoes).
I took it to mean she was swooning over him, but she was a lesbian, so wouldn’t normally swoon over a man, ergo he/his appearance was making her straight.Freedomforall wrote: ↑Sat Nov 19, 2022 10:17 pm I wonder what the comment, "Lesbianism leaving my body" means?
Carl, I would assume you would have similar thoughts?
Consider how much more positivity, you'd gain by going out loud and proud and looking just as sharp in your own version.
This has an odd bit at the end.Coder wrote: ↑Sat Nov 19, 2022 3:34 pm Last one:
https://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/styl ... -emas-2022
Is this really a case of privilege? Or is just exactly the same problem we have: worrying so much about what people will think that you chicken out. I can't find any indication that he was prevented from wearing a dress to the Oscars at any point, so I'm guess it was simply a question of getting enough courage to do it (which they apparently did in 2019).[Harry Styles] drew criticism from some in the queer community, including actor Billy Porter who expressed frustration to The Sunday Times.
"I feel like the fashion industry has accepted me because they have to," he said. "I created the conversation [about non-binary fashion] and yet Vogue still put Harry Styles, a straight white man, in a dress on their cover for the first time.
[...snip...]
"I had to fight my entire life to get to the place where I could wear a dress to the Oscars," Porter continued. "All (Styles) has to do is be white and straight."
Mostly I'm not a fan of vests or long skirts. However, say for a wedding, if given the choice between a suit and his outfit, I'd go with his.
I think for me, anyways, I'd stick to my usual style - so my "take" on his outfit would be knee to midi length (same pleat style), black boots, and - well I just am not a fan of vests. Not sure what I'd sub there, but at that point it isn't the same outfit.
To me it sounds like Mr Porter is pouting cause he didn’t get the front cover. Though there’s clearly bias against homosexuals, I figure putting Mr Porter on Vogue wouldn’t be as shocking as putting Mr Styles on Vogue since Mr Porter had already been doing the dress thing. But I could be wrong about which one did it first or at all before that vogue cover. I’m just not into celebrity BS.rode_kater wrote: ↑Sun Nov 20, 2022 12:00 pmThis has an odd bit at the end.Coder wrote: ↑Sat Nov 19, 2022 3:34 pm Last one:
https://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/styl ... -emas-2022
Is this really a case of privilege? Or is just exactly the same problem we have: worrying so much about what people will think that you chicken out. I can't find any indication that he was prevented from wearing a dress to the Oscars at any point, so I'm guess it was simply a question of getting enough courage to do it (which they apparently did in 2019).[Harry Styles] drew criticism from some in the queer community, including actor Billy Porter who expressed frustration to The Sunday Times.
"I feel like the fashion industry has accepted me because they have to," he said. "I created the conversation [about non-binary fashion] and yet Vogue still put Harry Styles, a straight white man, in a dress on their cover for the first time.
[...snip...]
"I had to fight my entire life to get to the place where I could wear a dress to the Oscars," Porter continued. "All (Styles) has to do is be white and straight."
Or maybe Vogue really does feel more comfortable putting a straight white guy in a dress on the cover than a queer person.
Brad Pitt did it first - no wait David Bowie did it first... I mean - it gets a bit tiring - who cares who came first?ScotL wrote: ↑Sun Nov 20, 2022 12:34 pm To me it sounds like Mr Porter is pouting cause he didn’t get the front cover. Though there’s clearly bias against homosexuals, I figure putting Mr Porter on Vogue wouldn’t be as shocking as putting Mr Styles on Vogue since Mr Porter had already been doing the dress thing. But I could be wrong about which one did it first or at all before that vogue cover. I’m just not into celebrity BS.
But the other thought of why one over the other is why not? Perhaps it’s the work of Styles’ publicist who worked harder than Porter’s. We don’t honestly think these big stars are negotiating their own gigs?
I had precisely the same thought -- That's an exemplar of one way to approach the issue! He's got it well-balanced, very nicely coordinated, and a good blend of the traditional and the avant-garde. He's also not relinquishing one iota of his masculinity either. It just works.