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Just came across this in my suggested stories to read:

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/ ... utType=amp
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The article is an enjoyable read :!:
Granted, some of the designs are not for me ;)
but I like the concept the 'newer' designers are putting forth.
Even our 'Mark-as-in-Mark' was included in the article :D

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Yes, good article. I hope there is some momentum to all of these and not just a passing fad/trend.
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Oh well, my fault for living in Europe, can't access the site.
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I get the following message:

"Unfortunately, our website is currently unavailable in most European countries. We are engaged on the issue and committed to looking at options that support our full range of digital offerings to the EU market. We continue to identify technical compliance solutions that will provide all readers with our award-winning journalism." in nice big friendly letters.
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I'll never understand internet censorship.
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Coder wrote: Thu Mar 25, 2021 9:38 pmI'll never understand internet censorship.
This is down to US companies not being willing to comply with EU privacy law.
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crfriend wrote: Fri Mar 26, 2021 12:28 am
Coder wrote: Thu Mar 25, 2021 9:38 pmI'll never understand internet censorship.
This is down to US companies not being willing to comply with EU privacy law.
This was a stupid comment by me - although the reason for my comment is that I tend to equate government mandates/regulations on the internet with censorship of one kind or another. I just miss the days when the web was innocent, before Facebook, and when it was all random weird stuff and personal interest sites. Nowadays, it's all about influencers and selling products (things like GDPR are trying to help with privacy when it comes to tracking/etc...). I'm just skeptical anytime gov't gets involved in things, and frankly, businesses will find a way around it.

As for this article - too bad there isn't a way to encourage more men to give skirts a try during COVID. I'm not on social media, and even so wouldn't have the influence that someone like Mark does (ignore my previous comment lamenting the modern internet). But something like a "Skirt Challenge" or "Why not buy a skirt on Amazon if you have Prime? Free returns and you can see what all the fuss is about".
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Coder wrote: Thu Mar 25, 2021 3:47 pm Yes, good article. I hope there is some momentum to all of these and not just a passing fad/trend.
Only time will tell on that front. I enjoyed reading that piece as well, and seeing a picture of Mark Bryan was a definite plus!
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Being a European myself, I can't see the article either but skirt purchasing on the net is hardly a challenge.
In that respect I have found the current restrictions a bit of a bind. One of my major pleasures in life was skirt shopping in "meat" as opposed to "cyber" space.
Amazon, I do use but not for skirts. My best on line purchases have been good old Marks and Spencer, Next, Boden and Joe Browns,
The clothes are very satisfactory but the process is just not as rewarding or as sociable.
It also serves to spread the message of men in skirts in a way that e-commerce will never ever match.
Finally, in that respect, I am not wholly convinced that social media is so much of an influence for good or ill on the internet. I rather think that is more down to human nature and plain bad attitude.
If someone is utterly convinced that a guy in a skirt is nothing short of an abomination, Facebook, Twitter or whatever is highly unlikely to change their minds.
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Designers are betting or men’s skirts as emerging fashion trend: ‘Very liberating’

By MURI ASSUNÇÃO
NEW YORK DAILY NEWS |
MAR 24, 2021 AT 3:27 PM

Bro, that skirt is so chic!
Skirts are emerging as a new trend in menswear fashion, as designers reflect the new realities of a year under COVID rules in their new collections.
According to The Guardian’s deputy fashion editor Priya Elan, the surprising new trend reflects how pandemic life has “unshackled men from their dress codes.”
Designers such as Stefan Cooke, Ludovic de Saint Sernin, and Burberry have all included skirts or dresses in their upcoming fall/winter collections.

According to Women Wear’s Daily, Cooke’s Men’s Fall 2021 collection imagines a “world of men’s wear with discipline, intensity and commitment in dressing up to the nines.”
Cooke and his partner Jake Burt went through different phases when dealing with the new COVID-19 reality — which was reflected in their designs. While their spring collection reflected the easiness of work-from-home days, the label is now looking beyond the pandemic, and focusing on the silhouette for the fall.

One example, described by Vogue as an “English tweed varsity jacket–slash–minidress” took many hours of fitting and arguments to be completed, Cooke told reporters in a Zoom call this week.
The celebrated London-based menswear fashion designer had a bold prediction: capes are the new T-shirts for the fall, and short skirts are in.
“Men in skirts is kind of a weird topic, but I think what’s good about these looks is that they feel really legitimately masculine, it doesn’t feel like you’ve taken a womenswear look and put it on a man which I think is quite nice. I also think they’re just really severe; we’ve tried this season to make super hard-hitting,” he said.

Ludovic de Saint Sernin, a Brussels-born designer who designs “for guys and girls, with many pieces designed without one gender in mind,” agreed.
“I love the idea of men in skirts, I find it very liberating,” he told The Guardian.
“It’s just really fun, I guess, being able to wear something that usually belongs to womenswear, and at the same time keeping the look believable on a man.”

One of his hard-to-make pieces, a Swarovski miniskirt called “Vichy,” takes “months and months” to be made, he told Vogue. But his clients — " they’re actually quite young men, whether they’re [from] Australia or Mexico” — don’t seem to care.

Burberry’s Creative Director Riccardo Tisci is also exploring the trend. Last month, as he unveiled the label’s menswear collection featuring pleated skirts and shirt dresses, he said that he wanted to “celebrate the freedom of expression.”
Mark Bryan, a 61-year-old Instagram influencer who identifies as “just a straight, married guy, [who] loves Porsches, beautiful women, and incorporating high heels and skirts into my daily wardrobe,” told Vogue Germany in an interview published Wednesday that “by breaking free from stereotypes, we are freeing ourselves from a great burden.”
According to GQ Australia, the idea of men rocking skirts on the fashion runways is not exactly new. Designers such as Yohij Yamamoto, Raf Simons and Jean-Paul Gaultier have already featured it in their ’90s collections. But its newest “surprising low-key” iteration is on the rise.
It is ideal for men who “see the skirt as a bold fashion frontier they can almost imagine conquering. Think of it as the missing link between the swishiest basketball short and the liberating expanse of a ballgown.”
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Hi Photoguy,
Thanks for taking the trouble to post that, it makes good reading.
photoguy207 wrote: Sat Mar 27, 2021 3:43 am “English tweed varsity jacket–slash–minidress”
This, I like the sound of!
It would be real nice to wander into Next and buy one out of the menswear section.
Ahhhh, one can dream.
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When I posted, I didn’t realize a lot of our members couldn’t read it :D

I just realized there is a typo in the headline of the article. I believe it should read “on men’s skirts” not “or men’s skirts”.
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Ah, Steve. Joe Browns. I occasionally get a catalogue of theirs along with the newspaper. I drool over the dress fabrics and ache to order. For fashion the prices are reasonable, for dresses, anyway. But .... my wife would never tolerate me wearing anything that they produce. Shame really because the patterns are the bright colours that I love. Ah, well, sigh.
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photoguy207 wrote: Sat Mar 27, 2021 12:05 pm When I posted, I didn’t realize a lot of our members couldn’t read.
No worries Photoguy, I know what you mean.
Sinned wrote: Sat Mar 27, 2021 6:37 pm I drool over the dress fabrics and ache to order. For fashion the prices are reasonable, for dresses, anyway. But .... my wife would never tolerate me wearing anything that they produce. Shame really because the patterns are the bright colours that I love. Ah, well, sigh.
Ah Dennis, I feel your pain, perhaps being ignored by the other half has some advantage after all.
Perhaps we should refer our spouses to Mark. Maybe his new found influence could effect a miracle on their attitudes but I doubt it.
As for Joe Browns, my tastes are actually quite conservative but they do quirky which I really like.
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