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Gender issues in an old Rosanne episode from the early 90s.

Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2019 3:09 pm
by moonshadow
Recently I purchased a box set of all the Roseanne episodes (the original series). Last night I watched a Halloween episode where the young boy D.J. wanted to be a witch for Halloween, complete with broom stick and all.

As the story goes Dan (the father) is embarrassed and won't let the child around Dan's friends, even going to far as to scold Roseanne for encouraging the practice.

"Roseanne, isn't two daughters enough?"

To which Roseanne responds,

"Well Dan, Darlene was a pirate for three years and you didn't have a problem with that." (Paraphrased)

Darlene is a tomboy of the show, at least in the early years.

The story continues on, along with the usual sitcom antics one would expect. The end of the show has Dan finally accepting that fact that his only son wants to be a witch for Halloween and goes so far as the buy him another broom.

Pretty mild by today's standards, but certainly ahead of its time in the early 90s

It provides further evidence that gender questioning isn't "a new thing" whipped up by todays "confused kids". Extra points for Roseanne calling out the double standard with regards to Darlenes tomboyish behavior.

I suppose an alternative answer to Dan's question about "two daughters being enough", she could have grinned and said,

"Yeah, Becky and D.J." Thus leaving Darlene out of the equation.

Re: Gender issues in an old Rosanne episode from the early 90s.

Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2019 5:45 pm
by Sinned
I note that David Walliam's book "The Boy in a dress" has been turned into a stage show. There already is a film on it. Maybe the message is ( VERY ) slowly getting out there. Sometimes deeply ingrained perceptions can take time to change, like trying to stop a runaway train. :(

Re: Gender issues in an old Rosanne episode from the early 90s.

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 3:47 pm
by new2skirts
Sinned wrote:
Mon Dec 02, 2019 5:45 pm
I note that David Walliam's book "The Boy in a dress" has been turned into a stage show. There already is a film on it. Maybe the message is ( VERY ) slowly getting out there. Sometimes deeply ingrained perceptions can take time to change, like trying to stop a runaway train. :(
It's getting out there, there's sections of society who don't give a rat's ass about gender norms and clothing - not sure who this guitarist is
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but I like his skirt!

We may see more men in skirts protesting against not being able to wear shorts, such a thing never would have happened before, a lot of employers now shrug their shoulders and say if you want to wear a skirt, go ahead... so slowly opinions are changing 8)

Re: Gender issues in an old Rosanne episode from the early 90s.

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 4:34 pm
by r.m.anderson
Interesting - a movie circa 1999 "THE DRESS CODE" about a boy wearing a dress

LINK:

http://www.movies.com/dress-code/details/m60513

Re: Gender issues in an old Rosanne episode from the early 90s.

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 10:59 pm
by Uncle Al
I tried to look up this film on IMDB.com[0] but ended up with the title - BRUNO.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0123003/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0
a film directed by Shirley MacLaine.

Uncle Al
:mrgreen: :ugeek: :mrgreen:

[0] IMDB = Internet Movie Data Base

Re: Gender issues in an old Rosanne episode from the early 90s.

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 11:18 pm
by crfriend
Uncle Al wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2019 10:59 pm
I tried to look up this film on IMDB.com[0] but ended up with the title - BRUNO. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0123003/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0 a film directed by Shirley MacLaine.
It's the same film, the title likely changed based on the region it was being shown in. This is common cinematic practise.

Re: Gender issues in an old Rosanne episode from the early 90s.

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2019 2:13 am
by FranTastic444
New2skirts - I linked to that photo in another thread. At the time I wrote it was Christopher Owens of Girls.

From the same thread, I really like this one -
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And this one isn't bad either
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