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High school allows boys to wear skirts to class - taipei

Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2019 5:24 am
by Jim2
See this article: http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/front/a ... 2003719143

Doesn't seem to be about transgender kids. From the article:

The changes came two months after the school held a week-long student-initiated “men wearing skirts” activity aimed at breaking gender stereotypes and highlighting personal freedoms.

Re: High school allows boys to wear skirts to class - taipei

Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2019 8:15 am
by renesm1
They look great in their skirts - nothing seems out of place there!

Re: High school allows boys to wear skirts to class - taipei

Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2019 8:57 am
by r.m.anderson
renesm1 wrote:They look great in their skirts - nothing seems out of place there!
Au contraire - - -
The third from the right appears to be out of uniform different shade of blouse and skirt !

Re: High school allows boys to wear skirts to class - taipei

Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2019 9:52 am
by denimini
This is equality with the correct reasons. A sign of a civilised society which I hope they can maintain.
r.m.anderson wrote: Au contraire - - -
The third from the right appears to be out of uniform different shade of blouse and skirt !
"The school’s management also changed a rule that required female students to wear only black or blue skirts or trousers, saying they are now free to wear skirts or trousers in any color, as long as they are a solid color." I would assume this applies to male students as well.

Re: High school allows boys to wear skirts to class - taipei

Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2019 10:55 am
by kiltguyire
Its spreading :)

Re: High school allows boys to wear skirts to class - taipei

Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 12:42 am
by Uncle Al
Image
Most of the guys seem happy with this 'change'. Some, however,
seem to be camera shy. I think they all look good & comfortable :D

Uncle Al
:mrgreen: :ugeek: :mrgreen:

Re: High school allows boys to wear skirts to class - taipei

Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 1:54 pm
by Stu
The test for this will be how many male students actually take up this possibility.

If it's zero or virtually zero, which is entirely possible, then this is a case in which the boys have a right to wear skirts in theory, but woe betide them if they actually do it!

Time will tell.

Re: High school allows boys to wear skirts to class - taipei

Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 1:28 am
by kidme
More development: https://chinapost.nownews.com/20190727-659708

Parent groups protest against boys wearing skirts

Re: High school allows boys to wear skirts to class - taipei

Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 3:33 am
by Fred in Skirts
kidme wrote:More development: https://chinapost.nownews.com/20190727-659708

Parent groups protest against boys wearing skirts
It sounds to me like these groups do not want equality for the boys and their arguments are stupid!!

The school checked with the parents at that school and they did not have a problem with it.

Re: High school allows boys to wear skirts to class - taipei

Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 9:52 am
by Sinned
"Where does a skirt-wearing male student go when the call of nature comes?” " .... the protesters expressed concern that things can go wrong in the future, including that boys will be allowed to use restrooms for girls, ...."

Well the boy's toilets, of course! Why should disposing of one leg-tube alter that and why should it lead to boys using girl's toilets ( or v.v. )? Scaremongering again and making assumptions that would never happen because of their ( parent's ) own insecurities on the matter.

“Without the boundary, how will boys treat girls with respect?”

Where did that come from? And what's it to do with wearing a skirt? So a boy will only show respect if he is NOT allowed to wear a skirt? WTF.

".... exposing one’s chest and back or other “inappropriate” dress codes are not in the spirit of respect." How is wearing a skirt exposing one's chest and back? Oh, it's the "inappropriate" dress code, but how is a boy wearing a skirt inappropriate, especially when in other parts of Asia male skirt wearing is common?

".... accused the school of misleading children into believing that allowing boys to wear skirts is gender equality." Well, this has been discussed on this forum before and boys wearing skirt may have something or nothing to do with gender equality but it's not the whole story.

The opposition is predictable but they didn't produce one coherent or logical reason for boys to not wear skirts.

Re: High school allows boys to wear skirts to class - taipei

Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:37 am
by Jim
Sinned wrote:"Where does a skirt-wearing male student go when the call of nature comes?” " .... the protesters expressed concern that things can go wrong in the future, including that boys will be allowed to use restrooms for girls, ...."

Well the boy's toilets, of course! Why should disposing of one leg-tube alter that and why should it lead to boys using girl's toilets ( or v.v. )?
Yes, that one's ridiculous. Where have the pants-wearing female students gone?

Re: High school allows boys to wear skirts to class - taipei

Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 3:13 pm
by Grok
The anti-skirt protests seem to be an emotional reaction, so there is a lack of logical arguments.

Re: High school allows boys to wear skirts to class - taipei

Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2019 10:51 am
by moonshadow
kidme wrote:More development: https://chinapost.nownews.com/20190727-659708

Parent groups protest against boys wearing skirts
Sounds like your typical run of the mill close mindedness... and those who object are pulling every "family values" card they can to stop it, when in reality, individual "world views" are being challenged and some people just can't hack the idea that people should be free to make decisions about their own life without the consent of whomever.

U.S. news feeds overflow with this type of thing every day. Typical knee jerk reactions. *yawn*

Re: High school allows boys to wear skirts to class - taipei

Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2019 3:24 pm
by Grok
Is the local culture one that demands Trousers Tyranny for males? If so, we may expect a strong cultural resistance to MIS.

Re: High school allows boys to wear skirts to class - taipei

Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2019 3:02 am
by 6ft3Aussie
Sounds to me like hang-ups from inflexible, perhaps outdated viewpoints.

The excuses given like "How will the boys respect girls" and "when the call of nature comes where will the boys go?"...Really?

We regularly host Japanese exchange school students for up to two weeks at a time, and I've worn utility kilts, and sarongs while at home, and they haven't even given me a second glance, treated me any different, laughed or made a comment. One day I went to pick up our two girls from the school one afternoon (was a Saturday) after they had a day excursion to the Gold Coast while wearing a utility kilt, and no comments or issues even though I spoke with one of the Japanese facilitators and a couple of other host parents. Again, not even a second look.

The students that we've hosted (5 girls and 3 boys) I would describe as quite conservative, certainly in the way they dress, including their uniforms.