Nice article that mentions Skirtcafe favorably
Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2019 5:03 pm
Skirt Cafe is an on-line community dedicated to exploring, promoting and advocating skirts and kilts as a fashion choice for men. We do this in the context of men's fashion freedom --- an expansion of choices beyond those commonly available for men to inc
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Perhaps beer on the Emerald Isle doesn't come in six-packs...Ralph wrote:I am amused that the author uses "Joe Soap" in the same way that we Yanks use "Joe Sixpack"
I do wish these journalists would check their sources before repeating the lies put about by the 'haters'. There has never been a single case of a child under 18 undergoing hormone treatment or an operation to realign their sexuality - not one - it is illegal and any doctor who tried it would be struck off.r.m.anderson wrote:By Colette Sheridan
...Should they not wait until they’re 18 before making any life-changing decisions that would see them undergoing hormone treatment and operations to realign their sexuality? ...
Sorry, can not find a source in English, but you are wrong. Hormone treatment can happend before age 18. You might be right in your jurisdiction but not worldwide, not even in the Europe.pelmut wrote:I do wish these journalists would check their sources before repeating the lies put about by the 'haters'. There has never been a single case of a child under 18 undergoing hormone treatment or an operation to realign their sexuality - not one - it is illegal and any doctor who tried it would be struck off.r.m.anderson wrote:By Colette Sheridan
...Should they not wait until they’re 18 before making any life-changing decisions that would see them undergoing hormone treatment and operations to realign their sexuality? ...
...Should they not wait until they’re 18 before making any life-changing decisions
It does not cause permanent life changes, it merely delays puberty until the child is old enough to be certain which puberty they want to go through. Failure to give puberty blockers will cause permanent life changes by enforcing an irreversible puberty which may turn out to be the wrong one.Sinned wrote:Puberty blocking is a form of hormone treatment.
pelmut wrote:...Should they not wait until they’re 18 before making any life-changing decisionsIt does not cause permanent life changes, it merely delays puberty until the child is old enough to be certain which puberty they want to go through. Failure to give puberty blockers will cause permanent life changes by enforcing an irreversible puberty which may turn out to be the wrong one.Sinned wrote:Puberty blocking is a form of hormone treatment.
These "puberty blockers", ie GnRH agonists, were originally licenced c1985 to treat end-stage prostate cancer.Sinned wrote:Puberty blocking is a form of hormone treatment.
You do go through puberty if you are given hormones, its just different from the one you would have had without the hormones.skirtyscot wrote:pelmut wrote:...Should they not wait until they’re 18 before making any life-changing decisionsIt does not cause permanent life changes, it merely delays puberty until the child is old enough to be certain which puberty they want to go through. Failure to give puberty blockers will cause permanent life changes by enforcing an irreversible puberty which may turn out to be the wrong one.Sinned wrote:Puberty blocking is a form of hormone treatment.
Surely there is no choice of puberty. You either get the one your body has naturally, or you get a lifetime of hormones or various bits chopped off (or both) and never go through puberty at all.
The use of 'will' was correct if your body produces hormones at puberty (which most people's do) - and those hormones will cause permanant life changes in the form of puberty. If the person is transgender, that puberty will be the wrong one as far as they are concerned. The reason for using the word 'may' is because sometimes the person turns out not to be transgender, so the puberty they would have had without the blockers would have actually been the right one; in that case the blockers are discontinued and puberty proceeds normally, but a bit later than usual.Failure to give puberty blockers doesn't cause permanent changes, it allows them. And your italicised "will" doesn't sit well with your use of "may" later in the sentence.
When you are transgender.And how can your natural puberty be wrong?
That treatment was used for the long-term treatment of men who had already gone through puberty and it did not include giving œstrogen to make up for the reduction in the effect of Testosterone. The balance in that case is between a slight increase in the risk of fractures and a much greater risk of death from prostate cancer.pleated wrote:These "puberty blockers", ie GnRH agonists, were originally licenced c1985 to treat end-stage prostate cancer.Sinned wrote:Puberty blocking is a form of hormone treatment.
Below is a study of one of the effects on men treated with them.
Gonadotropin-releasing hormone agonists and fracture risk: a claims-based cohort study of men with nonmetastatic prostate cancer.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16258089
Natural puberty may not be wrong, per chromosomal body traits, but may be wrong for the individual's sense of self, in particular gender. It has been well demonstrated that it is far simpler to reconcile the body to the mind than vice versa. That fact is the origin of the cliche regarding the "woman trapped in a man's body." It is not far-fetched.skirtyscot wrote:pelmut wrote:...Should they not wait until they’re 18 before making any life-changing decisionsIt does not cause permanent life changes, it merely delays puberty until the child is old enough to be certain which puberty they want to go through. Failure to give puberty blockers will cause permanent life changes by enforcing an irreversible puberty which may turn out to be the wrong one.Sinned wrote:Puberty blocking is a form of hormone treatment.
Surely there is no choice of puberty. You either get the one your body has naturally, or you get a lifetime of hormones or various bits chopped off (or both) and never go through puberty at all.
Failure to give puberty blockers doesn't cause permanent changes, it allows them. And your italicised "will" doesn't sit well with your use of "may" later in the sentence.
And how can your natural puberty be wrong?
pelmut wrote:You do go through puberty if you are given hormones, its just different from the one you would have had without the hormones.
That doesn't answer the question. It doesn't make puberty wrong, it's just that the person doesn't like it.When you are transgender.And how can your natural puberty be wrong?
dillon wrote: Natural puberty may not be wrong, per chromosomal body traits, but may be wrong for the individual's sense of self, in particular gender. It has been well demonstrated that it is far simpler to reconcile the body to the mind than vice versa. That fact is the origin of the cliche regarding the "woman trapped in a man's body." It is not far-fetched.