Flower Boy at Wedding

Clippings from news sources involving fashion freedom and other gender equality issues.

Re: Flower Boy at Wedding

Postby FranTastic444 » Sun Jun 16, 2019 3:35 pm

pelmut wrote:
FranTastic444 wrote:The Times of London has covered child 'transitioning' in some depth over recent weeks.

The Times has shown a strong anti-transgender agenda in recent years and has published a stream of articles by notorious trans-haters.  This has led to the resignation of one of its journalists.  

Many of these articles have been written by radical feminists or are based on lies spread by them, so I would regard The Times as one of the least trustworthy sources of information about anything to do with transgender people.  The Daily Mail isn't much better.

I had no idea. It is a subject that they do seem to report on with regularity, particularly with regards to the Mermaids charity - in fact they report today on a data breach from the org. What I've just noticed is that some of this reporting is coming from Andrew Gilligan - a name that many Brits may remember from 2003.
FranTastic444
Member Extraordinaire
 
Posts: 352
Joined: Fri Jun 08, 2018 1:47 am
Location: Boston, MA

Re: Flower Boy at Wedding

Postby pelmut » Sun Jun 16, 2019 5:34 pm

FranTastic444 wrote:...It is a subject that they do seem to report on with regularity, particularly with regards to the Mermaids charity - in fact they report today on a data breach from the org. What I've just noticed is that some of this reporting is coming from Andrew Gilligan - a name that many Brits may remember from 2003.

Since about 2016 The Times and Sunday Times have become strongly transphobic and the number of anti-transgender articles has greatly increased (about 130 negative articles in 2017 according to a witness statement).  They have been hounding Mermaids for some time. and a quick read through the Wikipedia articles on Andrew Gilligan and Rod Liddle, who regularly write transphobic articles, will give you some idea of the sort of people they are.
There is no such thing as a normal person, only someone you don't know very well yet.
pelmut
Member Extraordinaire
 
Posts: 1010
Joined: Wed Mar 12, 2014 10:36 am
Location: Somerset, England

Re: Flower Boy at Wedding

Postby Kilted Musician » Sun Jun 16, 2019 7:20 pm

BobM wrote:I wear skirts because I want to. No further explanation is necessary or even desirable. Most people deal with it. Some don't. I don't care either way. Why? Because I am a man. No excuses, and no apologies...

My thoughts exactly. I don't try to analyze myself to figure out why I like to wear kilts and skirts. I just do it. Same for my legwear. I'll wear hose or tights with skirts, kilts, shorts, or long pants because I like to.

--Rick
Don't be afraid of being different, be afraid of being the same as everyone else...
Kilted Musician
Member Extraordinaire
 
Posts: 378
Joined: Sun Aug 15, 2004 3:50 pm

Re: Flower Boy at Wedding

Postby pleated » Sun Jun 16, 2019 10:03 pm

FranTastic444 wrote:I had no idea. It is a subject that they do seem to report on with regularity, particularly with regards to the Mermaids charity - in fact they report today on a data breach from the org. What I've just noticed is that some of this reporting is coming from Andrew Gilligan - a name that many Brits may remember from 2003.

So members can judge for themselves here is a link to the article in the Sunday Times (16th June 2019)-
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/pare ... tent=22278
pleated
Member Extraordinaire
 
Posts: 268
Joined: Sun Nov 06, 2011 2:08 pm
Location: Ireland

Re: Flower Boy at Wedding

Postby FranTastic444 » Sun Jun 16, 2019 10:10 pm

I would imagine that the article is behind a paywall.
FranTastic444
Member Extraordinaire
 
Posts: 352
Joined: Fri Jun 08, 2018 1:47 am
Location: Boston, MA

Re: Flower Boy at Wedding

Postby pleated » Sun Jun 16, 2019 10:12 pm

FranTastic444 wrote:I would imagine that the article is behind a paywall.

Yes, that is why i have just posted a link with a share token.
pleated
Member Extraordinaire
 
Posts: 268
Joined: Sun Nov 06, 2011 2:08 pm
Location: Ireland

Re: Flower Boy at Wedding

Postby FranTastic444 » Sun Jun 16, 2019 10:24 pm

pleated wrote:
FranTastic444 wrote:I would imagine that the article is behind a paywall.

Yes, that is why i have just posted a link with a share token.

Ah - didn't realise that you could do that. When I tried sharing a while back you only got a brief summary with the option of subscribing.

Some 'interesting' comments at the bottom of the article that are praising Gilligan for investigative journalism.
FranTastic444
Member Extraordinaire
 
Posts: 352
Joined: Fri Jun 08, 2018 1:47 am
Location: Boston, MA

Re: Flower Boy at Wedding

Postby crfriend » Sun Jun 16, 2019 10:33 pm

pleated wrote:So members can judge for themselves here is a link to the article in the Sunday Times (16th June 2019)-
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/pare ... tent=22278

What was the target audience of the article? Grammar-school level folks?

That read like an editorial piece, not an exercise in journalism. It's certainly not what I'd have expected from The Times that I knew and occasionally had access to in the '60s and '70s. The "article" read more like Fox "News" than a respected journal.
Retrocomputing -- It's not just a job, it's an adventure!
User avatar
crfriend
Master Barista
 
Posts: 10680
Joined: Fri Nov 19, 2004 9:52 pm
Location: New England (U.S.)

Re: Flower Boy at Wedding

Postby FranTastic444 » Sun Jun 16, 2019 10:49 pm

Shoots down my earlier post about the Times being known for impartial and high-quality journalism.

This is investigative journalism rather than straight news reporting, so I guess it is difficult to write a balanced article when a journalist thinks he has exposed a wrong (not that I'm justifying it).

The journo has a 'history' let's say. There is the 2003 incident that I will not take any further here and since then there have been a couple of incidents where 'substantial damages' were paid out as a result of his reporting elsewhere.

The Times made a correction (not an apology) regarding Mermaids back in January (as referenced earlier in this thread I think).
FranTastic444
Member Extraordinaire
 
Posts: 352
Joined: Fri Jun 08, 2018 1:47 am
Location: Boston, MA

Re: Flower Boy at Wedding

Postby Gusto10 » Fri Jul 19, 2019 6:22 am

crfriend wrote:Traditionally, a young boy would have been the ring-bearer, ...

It reminds me of the situation a few year ago. When I remarried, my daughter was there and was the ring bearer. The photo thereof I sent to the child support foundation which tried to cut the contact between my her and me on instigation of my ex. A picture still tells more than a thousands words.
Gusto10
Member Extraordinaire
 
Posts: 616
Joined: Mon Aug 17, 2015 12:07 pm

Re: Flower Boy at Wedding

Postby crfriend » Mon Jul 22, 2019 12:51 am

Gusto10 wrote:[That] reminds me of the situation a few year ago. When I remarried, my daughter was there and was the ring bearer. The photo thereof I sent to the child support foundation which tried to cut the contact between my her and me on instigation of my ex. A picture still tells more than a thousands words.

What was the outcome of that? Did anything good come from it?
Retrocomputing -- It's not just a job, it's an adventure!
User avatar
crfriend
Master Barista
 
Posts: 10680
Joined: Fri Nov 19, 2004 9:52 pm
Location: New England (U.S.)

Previous

Return to In the News / Advocacy

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest

cron