Man in a dress on 'First Dates' television show

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Re: Man in a dress on 'First Dates' television show

Postby moonshadow » Tue Jan 08, 2019 4:07 pm

As for tops,

I'll grant some men's bodies may not be built for womens tops. I myself am not very broad at the shoulder and I find that womens tops fit me fine.

I really wish I could wear them in more formal settings, as it is when dressing up for something formal I have to wear my one shirt for men... The problem is the shirt is very constraining and stuffy. I feel like I can't move in it.

My ladies tops are more stretchy and forgiving, and generally much more comfortable. Some stretchy ladies tops can look very formal, whereas the only thing stretchy in the men's department are tee shirts. Which is not something you'd wear to a wedding or job interview.

Then there is the matter of just looking nice with skirts. When I wear men's tops with skirts, I just doesn't look right to me. One of my first shots (photographs) looked like I was wearing a potato sack. The ladies tops seem to accentuate the curves of my upper half better and bring the whole look out.

Yes guys have curves too... and there is no reason to hide them or be ashamed of them.
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Re: Man in a dress on 'First Dates' television show

Postby Fred in Skirts » Tue Jan 08, 2019 4:14 pm

I have some tops that fit like a glove and are very comfortable because they are stretchy.
I don't worry about them showing off my boobs ( I hate calling them man boobs or moobs.). They are what they are and they are part of me and so what is the big deal. I just have never understood the problem in this regard. Why try to hide them??? :thumright:
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Re: Man in a dress on 'First Dates' television show

Postby STEVIE » Tue Jan 08, 2019 9:31 pm

Hi All, but especially Dust,
Not a dress but that is me C1978. If you look closely, the waistcoat and trousers are one piece. Back then we would have called it a jumpsuit or catsuit and it was a one of a kind at the time, expensive too. It hung from the shoulders like a dress and was certainly the most comfortable bifurcated garment I have ever owned.
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Re: Man in a dress on 'First Dates' television show

Postby Sinned » Tue Jan 08, 2019 10:15 pm

If, on a woman it's a catsuit, then on a man should it be a dogsuit? It looks fine btw and most wouldn't notice it's a one piece garment. I wouldn't have if you hadn't brought my attention to it.
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Re: Man in a dress on 'First Dates' television show

Postby crfriend » Wed Jan 09, 2019 12:24 am

STEVIE wrote:Not a dress but that is me C1978.

Two observations, Steve: (1) That's astonishingly cool, and if you hadn't pointed out that it was a jumpsuit I very likely would not have noticed, and (2) What an attractive couple. I hope it was at least marginally successful.

Also of note are the platform shoes. And the flowers on both parties.

I have a few photographs of me in the 1970s, but all of them are sufficiently hideous that it'd take one Hell of a bribe for me to scan any of 'em (and the only ones from the time were shot at the two proms I took my then-girlfriend to). She's cute in both, but I look like an absolute git.
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Re: Man in a dress on 'First Dates' television show

Postby STEVIE » Wed Jan 09, 2019 2:38 am

Hi All
The lady in question is my now wife. That occasion was my now sister in law's wedding, We married in 1981 and I wore a plain grey 3 piece.
The fashion for The Kilt at Scots weddings only became more popular in the mid to late 1980s and now it is considered almost obligatory.
The suit I am wearing was bespoke for me for the occasion of my own sister's wedding. I had the honour of giving her away and that was in 1977.
That cost just shy of £200 then and took 4 fitting sessions with the tailor. When the flairs went completely out of fashion I approached him with a view to having it adapted. The cost would have been significantly higher than the original as a complete re-build from the shoulder down would have been necessary. Fortunately, the jacket went on for a good number of years later. All in all I considered it money well spent as it was still a way of me cocking my proverbial snoot at convention.
In those days I would have been considered more akin to Paul in my preferred attire but that really would have been going too far by any standard.
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Re: Man in a dress on 'First Dates' television show

Postby Dust » Wed Jan 09, 2019 2:48 am

STEVIE wrote:Hi All, but especially Dust,
Not a dress but that is me C1978. If you look closely, the waistcoat and trousers are one piece. Back then we would have called it a jumpsuit or catsuit and it was a one of a kind at the time, expensive too. It hung from the shoulders like a dress and was certainly the most comfortable bifurcated garment I have ever owned.
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Thanks for the picture! That is awesome! I think something like this catching on would be a huge step in the right direction. Any idea where something like that could be found today? I've seen a picture or two of something similar before, but it was more of jacket and pants connected than pants and vest. I'll try to look for the image.

I have a friend who swears by suspenders, I image what you had there would be similar but with even more freedom at the waist.
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Re: Man in a dress on 'First Dates' television show

Postby Grok » Wed Jan 09, 2019 2:57 am

Dust wrote:Dresses are not only unbifurcated, but they are also one piece top and bottom. This is something else that is foreign to most men.
If I recall correctly, somebody pointed out that-culturally-we don't have experience with men wearing dress like garments. This is something that is foreign to our back ground.

As for skirt like garments, there has been a precedent in the kilt. The kilt has been the only social acceptable alternative to twin-pipes. Indeed, nearly all of the alternatives we see marketed are skirt like garments.
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Re: Man in a dress on 'First Dates' television show

Postby STEVIE » Wed Jan 09, 2019 3:05 am

Hi Dust,
Thanks for the compliments.
Check out your local tailors or seamstresses. I doubt that there would be any way of having a thing like that made from the internet.
The guy who made that one is unfortunately, long gone.
Your friend is correct about suspenders but we call them braces. I use them on some skirts to make them sit better and for the look too.
The real point is to find your own style by simply trying any variation that takes your fancy.
Most of all, enjoy the journey.
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Re: Man in a dress on 'First Dates' television show

Postby Wonderful Electric » Fri Jan 11, 2019 5:26 pm

I just finished watching this program, using the Telly extension in chrome. Makes me happy that the two agreed to see each other again. I can't say for sure if the dress was a factor or not, and that makes me happy too. There's apparently 5 days left for this to be online or something. Chrome. Telly extension.
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