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I had no idea about this men's skirt form Guatemala

Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2017 3:57 pm
by renesm1
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/30/spor ... -team.html

I didn't know about this - did anyone else! Any nail in the "men don't traditionally wear skirts" myth!!!

Re: I had no idea about this men's skirt form Guatemala

Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2017 7:13 pm
by Uncle Al
:thumleft:

Uncle Al
:mrgreen: :ugeek: :mrgreen:

Re: I had no idea about this men's skirt form Guatemala

Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2017 8:27 pm
by Bertino56
(A quote from the original NYT article:)
"The players explained to me that the coxtar (the skirt), the kutin (the shirt) and the pas (the sash)
have meanings associated with the ancestral Mayan worldview."
I haven't seen this before, but it looks a lot like the traditional field hockey skirt.
You can find plenty of pictures of skirted field hockey teams, including some where
men and boys are included, and wear uniform skirts along with their female teammates.

Re: I had no idea about this men's skirt form Guatemala

Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2017 8:29 pm
by WesleyN
Yes I thought in Panama, also Indians. Only a short skirt. I saw it on television once. But I couldn't find a picture.

Re: I had no idea about this men's skirt form Guatemala

Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2017 11:43 pm
by Grok
renesm1 wrote:
I didn't know about this - did anyone else! Any nail in the "men don't traditionally wear skirts" myth!!!
One gets the impression that these men are reclaiming their heritage.

Are they otherwise expected to wear trousers?

When in Rome do as the Romans do.

Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2017 11:32 pm
by Grok
I wish that I had scribbled down a note...

A few days ago I came across a web site which had a story about a visitor to Guatemala. The visitor asked if he could wear a coxtar, and his wish was granted.

The visitor was considerable taller than the local men. In the image he looked like a white man in a miniskirt.

Have to give the man credit for being open minded, for trying something his own culture has frowned upon.

Re: When in Rome do as the Romans do.

Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2017 1:44 pm
by finrod
Grok wrote:I wish that I had scribbled down a note...

A few days ago I came across a web site which had a story about a visitor to Guatemala. The visitor asked if he could wear a coxtar, and his wish was granted.

The visitor was considerable taller than the local men. In the image he looked like a white man in a miniskirt.

Have to give the man credit for being open minded, for trying something his own culture has frowned upon.
Is this the story you saw?

Exploits and Expletives in Guatemala - Forrest Pitts

Re: I had no idea about this men's skirt form Guatemala

Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2017 2:09 pm
by Grok
Yeah, that's it.

Re: I had no idea about this men's skirt form Guatemala

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2020 6:42 pm
by Grok
A soccer team from Seattle, the Sounders, recently played in Honduras.

If the Sounders should start playing in Guatemala, perhaps we will start seeing more of this garment.

Re: I had no idea about this men's skirt form Guatemala

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2020 8:33 pm
by new2skirts
They should introduce this "coxtar" to UK football :lol: ...perhaps one a bit more fitted... the way it's wrapped looks cool 8)

Re: I had no idea about this men's skirt form Guatemala

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2020 2:25 am
by Grok
From what I can see online the garment is a short wrap skirt.

Re: I had no idea about this men's skirt form Guatemala

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2020 7:37 am
by Faldaguy
We spent a few weeks in Guatemala about 15 years ago and still saw a few men in traditional clan clothes, but not many. Many of the, if not most, still wore their clan color and patterns (mostly patterns, often on white) and looked so beautiful--especially with their very and health posture in part from carrying things on their heads; whereas the men tump lines resulting in a humped over posture. Anyway, it seemed only during celebrations was there much adherence to traditional dress by the men -- western style clothing being perhaps a status symbol. It just goes to show how rapidly cultural norms can change, and sadly, so far mostly for the worse for men in my view.