(This reply was started around 12:30PM CST, then placed on hold
while we went to our grandson's birthday party.)
OK--Now I've had 4 1/2 hours more sleep, I agree with all of
the posters here, that Bob & Carl do an excellent job of guiding
the Cafe'. I'm possitively sure that more goes on in the background
than anyone would ever see at the Cafe'.
I agree that the 'drag-queen' article was good as it demonstrated the forward thinking
movement of a given University, yet it does not further the 'man-in-a-skirt' concept.
This 'lad' uses the 'd-q' as an entertainment venue, which he will probably make a fortune
in Vegas as a female impersonator. That may be his calling in life, who knows?
Yes, these are 'fine-lines' with a good bit of gray area between them.
Bob & Carl help us keep 'both oars in the water', and most of the time,
we don't realize that they are doing as such. That is a sign of a good moderator,
leader or captain of a ship.
As Carl has noted,
"In our defence, I'd like to point out that Bob and I are both human
(you know, those pesky carbon-based life forms that make mistakes all the time)
and each have our own styles and foibles. And each of us has the capacity to
err from time to time (guilty as charged). Each of us also seems to have different
"input channels" through which we accumulate the data we use to make our decisions,
and we have different life experiences that determine how we interpret those data."
And it takes all of those 'different channels' to make a decision. A one-sided decision
is usually made on the spur of the moment, and regretted later on.
(We-of the carbon based life forms
-have experienced this more than we
would care to admit.)
(It is now 9:45PM CST, and now completing this reply.)
Skirt Chaser----Please note that your post was not the first of its kind at the Cafe'.
The subject of Kilt Liners has been brought up before, and quite successfully.
No one brought up the 'un-mentionables' but put forth good ideas about the
way a 'liner' or 'slip' prevents the kilt from clinging to your skin or 'hose-tights'.
Cessna152Towser provided examples and places where a 'gentlemens slip'
could be beneficial to the wearer and some locations where they could be purchased.
IMO, some people read to much into the information provided by the article.
I read it, and took it as a plight of the Kilt Rental Companies and how they
are responding to a 'carbon-based life form' problem. The 'renters' don't use
common sense when wearing the 'item'. This is true of any company who rents
Tuxedos and Formal Wear. The 'renter' does not respect the company nor themselves
enough to care for/about the 'rented garment'. Some just treat it like an old dish rag.
This is a sad state of affairs as appathy towards a rented item is rampant,
almost beyond control. I personally don't treat my own clothes in this mannor
nor do I trash a rented Tux.
I'ld say that it comes to how
the topic is discussed. I did not see any attempts
to discuss 'underp**ts', just a way to protect the rental garment from damage.
When I sit down to dinner, I place a napkin over my lap thus protecting my clothes
from food accidentally dropped into my lap. This is a common sense approach to
keeping my clothes clean. Being taught good manners at the dinner table extends
into all aspects of life. I guess that 'some people' do not know what manners are,
nor do they care (appathy).
So, what's done is done! If this reply has stepped on anyones toes' it was not meant
to do so. Bob and Carl have my utmost support for their work at the Cafe'.
Whether it is in posting or what goes on behind the cafe's counter,
they do a marvelous job
I guess I need to get this soapbox put away as this is my point of view,
and each member of the Cafe' has his/her point of view. That is what helps
make this Cafe' a very interesting place to be