I have recently acquired an Apple Mac iBook. I detest it!!! I regret purchasing it and wish I had bought an ordinary laptop. I hate its white colour which reminds me of cheap and nasty kitchen appliances and that will get dirty in no time. I hate the ugly square keys and pathetically small screen. I hate the useless software you get with it such as that for messing about with music tracks, and the lack of anything decent like a wordprocessing package. I hate the fact that accessories for it have to be Apple and so they are over-priced. Lastly, I hate the way it differs so much from Windows, something we all know so well, and goes off in its own direction and doesn't integrate with the Microsoft products that we've all got.
I will never again purchase any Apple product.
Stu
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Our high school switched from Windows to Linux 2 years ago. We chose a distribution (SUSE at first, Fedora currently) that ran on our hardware. OpenOffice.org software was close enough to Microsoft Office for most of our purposes. We still use some Windows programs on a Windows server (so compatibility seems to be less a problem than you've experienced), but we're mostly pretty satisfied with our Linux systems.
On the last day of school we had a picnic, to which I wore my khaki Utilikilt. I talked to one student's father who said he had a Utilikilt and maybe he'd wear it more often. I hope I encouraged him with my example.
On the last day of school we had a picnic, to which I wore my khaki Utilikilt. I talked to one student's father who said he had a Utilikilt and maybe he'd wear it more often. I hope I encouraged him with my example.
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I love my iBook. It boots instantly, goes right to hibernate as soon as I close the lid, battery lasts a looong time, and runs Windose when I want to Office. I turn the network off to avoid all nasty malware while windows is up. I use a Logitech G7 wireless mouse, so I have the middle button and scroll wheel. OS X is stingy with memory use, and has Unix under the hood. I've got the complete hard drive imaged and bootable on an external Firewire disk drive; try doing that with PC...
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Actually, the Mac integrates very well with MS products, I have built many Mac-PC networks. You can share files, printers, etc. between Macs and PCs over the network. You can read and write PC format disks, USB drives, etc as well.
I don't know what accessories you're talking about. Many companies make accessories that work with a Mac. In fact, these days there is little different between a Mac and PC in the hardware, so most everything works.
If you want a word processor, you might be happy with Microsoft Office Mac edition. PC's don't come with MS Office either, although many of them have it bundled in and pre-loaded (at a price). It's no big deal, buying and installing MS Office on the Mac is very easy, and it is 100% compatible with MS Office for PC.
Yes, things work a bit differently on the Mac vs. PC. But I've found over time that it is a better user interface (but takes a bit of getting used to). For example, I keep many windows open and on Windows, I'm always searching around on my taskbar for the window I want. On the Mac, it's always in the same place in the dock.
As you learn to adjust to the Mac, you may come to enjoy its many positive features --- not the least that it's more likely to "just work" and keep working. It's not likely to slow down over time like PC's do, nor are you as likely to get a virus.
I don't know what accessories you're talking about. Many companies make accessories that work with a Mac. In fact, these days there is little different between a Mac and PC in the hardware, so most everything works.
If you want a word processor, you might be happy with Microsoft Office Mac edition. PC's don't come with MS Office either, although many of them have it bundled in and pre-loaded (at a price). It's no big deal, buying and installing MS Office on the Mac is very easy, and it is 100% compatible with MS Office for PC.
Yes, things work a bit differently on the Mac vs. PC. But I've found over time that it is a better user interface (but takes a bit of getting used to). For example, I keep many windows open and on Windows, I'm always searching around on my taskbar for the window I want. On the Mac, it's always in the same place in the dock.
As you learn to adjust to the Mac, you may come to enjoy its many positive features --- not the least that it's more likely to "just work" and keep working. It's not likely to slow down over time like PC's do, nor are you as likely to get a virus.
Hi Stu,
Sorry to hear that you don't like your Mac. They do take a bit of familiarisation if you've always been used to a Windows environment. I remember when I was allocated my first Mac at work, after using PCs for several years. My initial reaction was 'what the hell is this?' and I found that I had to do a bit of relearning in the way I did things. But after a little while I gradually came to like them more and more, and now I would not swap back to a PC, other than for where a specialist piece of software is not availble for the Mac.
The last thing I want to do on this Board is to contribute to yet another Mac vs PC flame war; these serve no purpose - both systems have their advantages, particularly the range of software available on the Windows platform. Each to their own. But 13 years on from my first Mac, I have owned several and I have to say that they suit me very well indeed and I enjoy using them, for their efficiency, ease of use and elegance, not to mention their relatively low-risk vulnerability to virus and trojan attacks. To return to your white iBook, I have to admit that I don't particularly like the looks of them; I opted for the brushed titanium finish of the PowerBook - a few more £s perhaps, but hey - you get more computing power for the price too.
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Sorry to hear that you don't like your Mac. They do take a bit of familiarisation if you've always been used to a Windows environment. I remember when I was allocated my first Mac at work, after using PCs for several years. My initial reaction was 'what the hell is this?' and I found that I had to do a bit of relearning in the way I did things. But after a little while I gradually came to like them more and more, and now I would not swap back to a PC, other than for where a specialist piece of software is not availble for the Mac.
The last thing I want to do on this Board is to contribute to yet another Mac vs PC flame war; these serve no purpose - both systems have their advantages, particularly the range of software available on the Windows platform. Each to their own. But 13 years on from my first Mac, I have owned several and I have to say that they suit me very well indeed and I enjoy using them, for their efficiency, ease of use and elegance, not to mention their relatively low-risk vulnerability to virus and trojan attacks. To return to your white iBook, I have to admit that I don't particularly like the looks of them; I opted for the brushed titanium finish of the PowerBook - a few more £s perhaps, but hey - you get more computing power for the price too.
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WE don't all have MS products we love! Personally, I have 5 Macs of various vintages and configurations sitting around in my office and NO WINDOWS in sight!Stu wrote:I have recently acquired an Apple Mac iBook. I detest it!!! I regret purchasing it and wish I had bought an ordinary laptop. I hate its white colour which reminds me of cheap and nasty kitchen appliances and that will get dirty in no time. I hate the ugly square keys and pathetically small screen. I hate the useless software you get with it such as that for messing about with music tracks, and the lack of anything decent like a wordprocessing package. I hate the fact that accessories for it have to be Apple and so they are over-priced. Lastly, I hate the way it differs so much from Windows, something we all know so well, and goes off in its own direction and doesn't integrate with the Microsoft products that we've all got.
I will never again purchase any Apple product.
Stu
Forget the past and move on to to a quality computing experience and report back in a month!
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I would buy a mac maybe, I have absolutely no problems with PCs on the hardware side of them, but I really do not in any way like Windows. I for some reason have 2 copies of IEserver running that keeps me from shutting the thing down. Another problem is I have another program running (Faticia) that comes from nowhere and uses memory. I shut it down and nothing seems to be effected so I'm thinking it's another useless piece of spyware or similar.
I heard Macs are much better computers to work with and come with a package of software that would cost a Windows user several hundreds to add. Only problem with them is they're not at all inexpensive.
I've tried Linux many times and mostly on short term basis because most of the help out there is one, very confusing; two, written by programmers for programmers; three, very little info on real world stuff as in not just a hobby PC.
Most have yet to answer this question, as a newbe how do I do this? Give me a clear and concise answer to it and please, only one solution that actually works. I also do not have time to "compile" anything so it must be a few lines of typing or a couple clicks.
I heard Macs are much better computers to work with and come with a package of software that would cost a Windows user several hundreds to add. Only problem with them is they're not at all inexpensive.
I've tried Linux many times and mostly on short term basis because most of the help out there is one, very confusing; two, written by programmers for programmers; three, very little info on real world stuff as in not just a hobby PC.
Most have yet to answer this question, as a newbe how do I do this? Give me a clear and concise answer to it and please, only one solution that actually works. I also do not have time to "compile" anything so it must be a few lines of typing or a couple clicks.
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Any sysadmin who's ever had to clean up the mess that that "virus vector software" leaves behind cares about it. And most likely hates it.Zorba wrote:So who gives a rolling red rat's rump about Microsoft's buggy, virus vector software?
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Hmm, I went from Monroe, Olivetti computers in high school (70's), had a bit of fun with an ibm keypunch machine and attached computer system, to an apple IIe (those funny little boxy things) when I was going to UAF (university of alaska at fairbanks), to a gateway2000 (cost me 3k and I didn't get speakers, printer or the new pentium), to an imac and now my latest...
TA DA! The MacBook! WOO HOO!
Got it at a student discount (still a student, even as an almost old fart
), with extra memory, etc. etc.
Downloaded Bootcamp, partitioned the harddrive, installed windows xp et.al. and
VOILA! a MacWindoze
I was able to do my school work with windows, my personal stuff with mac
and
my daughter was able to do both because at her school they run both OS.
For her 8th grade graduation and entry into high school, I got her a MacBook for her very own.
I was able to re-acquire her dell latitude so I can create my own evil genius linux system and RULE THE WORLD... FROM NOW ON... EVERYONE WILL WEAR SKIRTS... bwaahahahahahaa
TA DA! The MacBook! WOO HOO!
Got it at a student discount (still a student, even as an almost old fart
), with extra memory, etc. etc.Downloaded Bootcamp, partitioned the harddrive, installed windows xp et.al. and
VOILA! a MacWindoze
I was able to do my school work with windows, my personal stuff with mac
and
my daughter was able to do both because at her school they run both OS.
For her 8th grade graduation and entry into high school, I got her a MacBook for her very own.
I was able to re-acquire her dell latitude so I can create my own evil genius linux system and RULE THE WORLD... FROM NOW ON... EVERYONE WILL WEAR SKIRTS... bwaahahahahahaa
WSmac