Now hole' up for a minute...
You say this:
Gusto10 wrote: ↑
Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:33 pm
They were fooling around with the bug since 2003, the Chinese did the work and were paid by the US.
Then you write this:
And very simple, you can't create a vaccin unless you have prior info on the nature of the virus
So let's pull it all together, you're alleging that this particular bug has been around since 2003, China did the work, the U.S. financed it, yet for 18 years we somehow don't have enough information on this bug to generate a vaccine....
Am I missing something?
When the masks were made mandatory and interactions were decreased, the number of positive test decreased.
There are two parts here:
"When the mask were made mandatory [the number of positive test decreased
While in theory wearing a mask should cut down on the number of infections. The CDC first starting mandating mask wearing early on in 2020, and throughout the entire year, cases skyrocketed anyway. Why? Because Americans are notoriously uncooperative. There's nothing you can do to change that. It is what it is, the harder you try to push an American to do something, the harder they will resist. It's like trying to push to like magnets together.
"The interactions were decreased..
See above. The interactions never really decreased. In fact, they got worse. I'd almost argue by DESIGN. I personally have my on conspiracy theory that whoever owns this system WANTED covid to break out in the U.S..  I still can't figure out how this thing just seemed to magically "pepper" itself all over the map practically overnight, even among people with no known contacts among the infected. I also don't understand the logic behind our largest, and in many small towns, ONLY retailer [WalMart] cutting their operating hours from 24/17 hours per day to around 10-11 hours per day, AND funnel everyone through a single entrance. It seems to contrary to what you'd expect in a system that's supposed to be encouraging "social distancing". Our government shut down most of our park systems, closed off parking, roped off the trails, and with each closure it just funneled more and more people to what few places remained, causing "super spreader" events.
Then there is the independent nature of our government regarding states. While some [leftist] states were under hard lockdown, the states that were hard right [e.g. Tennessee] were taking in all those extra tourism dollars to the point where at one time, Tennessee ranked as one of the worst infection sites in the entire country.
Lockdowns can not work in our country due to the scattered variety of local and state laws. Constitutionally, the feds have limited power in these events, and it's up to the individual states to decide how to handle the pandemic separately. Even if the feds were to try some kind of national lockdown, considered what we witnessed on January 6th, I think it's pretty safe to say, "the people" won't stand for that.
So we need solutions that work for the American culture, and we have to be realistic about what the American public will tolerate. And I believe vaccines are the best thing we've got going at the time. Now what other countries do is their own concern. I put the U.S. at the center of this, yes I do realize there are other nations out there, but let's face it, despite all our shortcomings, the world does seem to emulate the U.S.
 A LOT of the 1% (Major retailers like Walmart, BestBuy, Target, Amazon, etc) among others have made out like BANDITS during this pandemic. The only businesses it really hurt were the mom and pops and the other chains that were going under anyway, but if you were already on the TOP, your foundation just got a little stronger! Not to mention, LEST WE FORGET, we have a FOR PROFIT PRIVATE HEALTH CARE SYSTEM. The more people get sick, the more money stuffed in the health systems back pockets. Not to mention the billions in federal handouts to all of these industries.
I'm not saying the virus itself was intentional, but I am saying the nature of it's spread, the POLITICAL DIVISIVENESS, the constant fear mongering and other bull sh!t that seems to know no end... well, I am saying the the top corporate elite of this nation milked the ever living HELL out of it, and I DO think they want the pandemic to drag on forever, because it has shown that the longer the pandemic drags on, the richer they get!
I know Carl dislikes baseless conspiracy, but I must invoke one of his sayings on this matter... "follow the money