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The Enemy Amongst Us

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I received this in an email from a good friend;

The Enemy Amongst Us!!!!

You may have read this previously but during these times of unrest in our country
it is worth repeating

It is only natural that after 8 years of a divisive and failed Presidency that Obama
went back to doing the only thing he was ever qualified to do and that is to be a
Community Organizer. He missed his opportunity to “Fundamentally Change America”
and has now sunk back to find his own level

The Enemy Amongst Us!!!!!!!
Article By the late Charles Krauthammer.

This answers a lot of questions with a view from the past,
Ever wonder why protests and demonstrations get started almost immediately
after some announcement by the Trump administration? How anti-gun marches
get set up so quickly after a school shooting? Huge marches on Washington DC
are organized so quickly? Read this and you'll know why.......Remember also
that J Edgar Hoover was never concerned about foreign powers subverting our
form of government. He was concerned about "enemies from within."

The Enemy Amongst Us!!
By Charles Krauthammer,
Oct 11, 2017
An article from the New York Post:


I do not understand how living in a country with its democracy established over
200 years ago, and now, for the first time in history, suddenly we have one of
our former presidents set up a group called “Organizing for Action” (OFA).

OFA is 30,000+ strong and working to disrupt everything that our current president’s
administration is trying to do. This organization goes against our Democracy, and it
is an operation that will destroy our way of governing. It goes against our Constitution,
our laws, and the processes established over 200 years ago. If it is allowed to proceed
then we will be living in chaos very much like third world countries are run. What good
is it to have an established government if it is not going to be respected and allowed
to follow our laws?

If you had an army some 30,000 strong and a court system stacked over the decades
with judges who would allow you to break the laws, how much damage could you do
to a country? We are about to find out in America!

Our ex-president said he was going to stay involved through community organizing
and speak out on the issues and that appears to be one post-administration promise
he intends to keep. He has moved many of his administration’s top dogs over to
Organizing for Action.

OFA is behind the strategic and tactical implementation of the resistance to the Trump
Administration that we are seeing across America, and politically active courts are
providing the leverage for this revolution.

OFA is dedicated to organizing communities for “progressive” change... Its issues are gun
control, socialist healthcare, abortion, sexual equality, climate change, and of course,
immigration reform.

OFA members were propped up by the ex-president’s message from the shadows:
“Organizing is the building block of everything great we have accomplished.
Organizers around the country are fighting for change in their communities and
OFA is one of the groups on the front lines. Commit to this work in 2017 and beyond.”
OFA’s website says it obtained its “digital” assets from the ex-president’s re-election
effort and that he inspired the movement. In short, it is the shadow government
organization aimed at resisting and tearing down the Constitutional Republic we know
as AMERICA.

Paul Sperry, writing for the New York Post, says, “The OFA will fight President Donald Trump
at every turn of his presidency and the ex-president will command them from a bunker less
than two miles from the White House.” Sperry writes that, “The ex-president is setting up a
shadow government to sabotage the Trump administration through a network of non-profits
led by OFA, which is growing its war chest (more than $40 million) and has some 250 offices
nationwide.

The OFA IRS filings, according to Sperry, indicate that the OFA has 32,525 (and growing)
volunteers nationwide. The ex-president and his ‘wife’ will oversee the operation from
their home/office in Washington DC.

Think about how this works. For example: Trump issues an immigration executive order;
the OFA signals for protests and statements from pro-immigrant groups; the ACLU lawyers
file lawsuits in jurisdictions where activist judges obstruct the laws; volunteers are called
to protest at airports and Congressional town hall meetings; the leftist media springs to
action in support of these activities; the twitter sphere lights up with social media; and
violence follows. All of this happens from the ex-president’s signal that he is heartened
by the protests.

If Barack Obama did not do enough to destroy this country in the 8 years he was in office,
it appears his future plans are to destroy the foundation on which this country has operated
on for the last 241 years.

If this does not scare you, then we are in worse trouble than you know.

So, do your part.. You have read it, so at least pass this on so others will know what we are up
against. We are losing our country and we are so compliant.
We are becoming a “PERFECT TARGET” for our enemy!

Editor’s comments: Krauthammer is about the best and brightest journalist and political analyst
we have, in my opinion. His words of warning in the above message should be taken seriously
and spread throughout the country so as many of our citizens as possible are made aware of
what is happening right under our noses!
:soapbox:
Too many people these days, can't see the forest for the trees.
They are not aware enough of what's going on around them - they're responding
with a "Knee-Jerk" reaction to all of the media hype.

The people in power of major cities are afraid of "hurting someone's feelings" and back down
to the demands of a few loudmouths. This issue with Floyd in Minneapolis, has turned a drug
addict and criminal into a martyr. Granted, what happened to him while in police custody
was terrible. He had to get arrested by one of the wormy apples in the bushel.

The Judicial Courts will determine the fate of the arresting officer - -
NOT THE COURT OF PUBLIC OPINION :!:

Too many people are "Arm-Chair Quarter Backs" playing Judge, Jury and Executioner.
A pannal of Jurists must hear ALL evidence, from ALL sides, to get a complete picture
of what happened and WHY the arrest went south.

It's time to stop the 'organizers' from promoting and supporting protests which turn into riots.
They are fueling the embers to ignite utter CAOS in our great country called America.

ALL LIVES MATTER: Black, Brown, Yellow & White. The color of your skin is only the wrapping
paper your gift to humanity is covered in. On the inside - we are all the same - male & female.
How you treat others and expect to be treated by others is up to you.
YOU are responsible for YOUR actions. Quit blaming others, with different wrapping paper,
when YOU caused a problem.

People seem to forget about the phrase - "E Pluribus Unum"
"E pluribus unum" is a traditional motto of the United States. It means "out of many, one" in Latin.
It has been placed on the U.S. dollar bill, and other related items. The motto was suggested by the
first Great Seal committee in 1776. ... The Motto alludes to this union."


The organizers of these protests are trying to make American citizens forget this motto.
They are trying to divide the country into hate and be hated, for any reason.

This crap has got to STOP :!:

OK, I'll put the :soapbox: away and try to get some sleep.
I'm now allowed to visit my wife at the hospital. The Doctors ran another MRI
and found she has had a second mini-stroke.

Good Lord, what's next :?:

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This was written by Bill Wilson, not Charles Krauthammer. I expect the rest of it is about as truthful as the attribution.

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I get very disgusted when some piddle little judge from some liberal brothel of a district countermands the actions of the president.

Of course if it was a conservative judge against something that Obama said it would never be tolerated.

Since soul searching is the pastime endeavor of some of the individuals in the café , maybe it would be good if they took a moment to reflect on just what is really going on and what those in control of the activities really want.

If you are so naïve as to believe that they just want justice and fair treatment for certain colors you are living in a fantasy world , and a very rude awakening is coming

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Other than the fact that Barak Obama happens to be black I have no idea why the neo-cons are so enraged by him. After all, he did preside over what was effectively Cheney/Dubya's second eight-year reign -- and those two remain darlings of the neo-cons.

Here's a prediction: There won't be true peace in the United States until We The People re-achieve political enfranchisement.
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I see that some people don't like what was said in "the article".
Whether he wrote it or not, and I don't trust snopes.com any more,
there is some truth in what it says. Seems that my "rant" was passed
over, only the 'fallicy' of the articles author has been questioned.

There is an 'element' in today's society that will do anything to disrupt
our(American's) way of life. They want only hand-outs to them, not being
ones who contribute too society.

Remember the phrase "United We Stand, Divided We Fall" :?:
We are beginning to FALL. Our country has eroded into a 'me' society
instead of a 'we' society.

In his 1961 inaugural speech President Kennedy said,
“Ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.”
www.jfklibrary.org/learn/education/teac ... do-for-you

I don't think/feel that anyone cares about this concept anymore.

WE - U.S. Citizens - need to remember this and STOP the instigators of all protests and riots.

WE - need to take our country back from the 'infidels' who trash our American culture
and ethics.

If anyone wants to live and thrive in America, fine - but that person MUST adhere to
OUR WAY OF LIFE. [0] The language used in America is English - not Spanish, French or
any other language. Learning another language is a great and useful tool, but we
still communicate in English. Promoting other languages is another way of DIVIDING
OUR COUNTRY.


WHY have American Citizens forgotten all of this :?:

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Theodore Roosevelt wrote in 1907,
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“In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith
becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact
equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man
because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the person's
becoming in every facet an American, and nothing but an American...There can be no
divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also,
isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag... We have
room for but one language here, and that is the English language... and we have room
for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people.”
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Uncle Al wrote:
Sun Jun 14, 2020 4:00 pm
There is an 'element' in today's society that will do anything to disrupt our(American's) way of life. They want only hand-outs to them, not being ones who contribute too society.
That sounds very much like the billionaire class and their corporations demanding ever more tax cuts and ever higher taxes/fees/payments from (what's left of) the working class.
Remember the phrase "United We Stand, Divided We Fall" :?:
We are beginning to FALL. Our country has eroded into a 'me' society instead of a 'we' society.
That fall started decades ago, and, yes, it is now a "ME" society where "I want it all!". We can start with the Forbes list for a lineup of suspects.
In his 1961 inaugural speech President Kennedy said,
“Ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.”
www.jfklibrary.org/learn/education/teac ... do-for-you
In 1961, there was still political franchise for the working class, so that was a just and reasonable statement. Now that that franchise has been taken from the vast majority of the population it makes no sense whatsoever. What we have now is even more pernicious than the way things were when we were a colony being used to fund the parent country with no representation. Why? Because we did it to ourselves. We got complacent and were overthrown from inside.
WE - need to take our country back from the 'infidels' who trash our American culture and ethics.
Look up. They're sitting on you.

I like the Roosevelt quote, but the world and culture of his is irretrievably lost. It is entirely alien to most today. It is as alien as the world of Abraham Lincoln, Jefferson Davis, Ben Franklin, and George Washington.
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Uncle Al wrote:
Sun Jun 14, 2020 4:00 pm
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In his 1961 inaugural speech President Kennedy said,
“Ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.”
www.jfklibrary.org/learn/education/teac ... do-for-you

I don't think/feel that anyone cares about this concept anymore.

WE - U.S. Citizens - need to remember this and STOP the instigators of all protests and riots.
....
Protests are part of what we can do for our county. Our Constitution clearly supports protests.

Reducing police violence against blacks will also serve to reduce police violence among other ethnic groups. Working for this end will help all of us in our country.

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protests yes but please explain what the owner of the wendys restaurant did that justified his place being burned down

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oldsalt1 wrote:
Sun Jun 14, 2020 5:43 pm
protests yes but please explain what the owner of the wendys restaurant did that justified his place being burned down
Precisely nothing.

Protests -- peaceful ones -- are supposedly enshrined in the US Constitution under the Freedom of Speech and Free Association clauses of the First Amendment.

Violence -- especially random mob violence -- can never be condoned in a civil action. Unfortunately, mobs are dangerous panicky things and can do things that individuals normally wouldn't at slight provocation, and there are some ace provocateurs out there.
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mobs are dangerous panicky things and can do things that individuals normally wouldn't at slight provocation, and there are some ace provocateurs out there.
That's the problem it is not that a group of locals responded to an event

What to many people are unwilling to accept is what is the ultimate goal of the "ACE PROVACATURES"

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Yes, understanding that there are provocateurs is important. Some are on the right and some are on the left and you can't always tell which as those on the right are trying to discredit the left. Both sides would like a race war, feeling that their side would win. These folks are not respected by us legitimate protestors.

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Of note here is that the oligarchs would much rather have the plebecite fighting amongst itself than united against the real oppressor.

"Right" or "left", it's the distraction that's key, and some are potentially in the pay of the same paymasters. Few seem to understand this.
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oldsalt1 wrote:
Sun Jun 14, 2020 12:18 pm

If you are so naïve as to believe that they just want justice and fair treatment for certain colors you are living in a fantasy world , and a very rude awakening is coming
Most of us protestors want justice and fair treatment for everyone. Uncontrolled police power puts everybody at risk.

Yes, we need to be well aware of the right supremacists who want to start a race war, which they think they'll win because they are better armed. We need to beware of the Trotskyites, who want violence so there is more oppression, which will bring on The Revolution. And we need to be aware of government provocateurs. All these agents try to take advantage of almost any larger protest movement.

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Uncle Al, though I like your concerns about personal responsibility and the concern that we've turned from a nation of "we" to "I" -- I cannot align with your sources of information that in my view are doing more to ferment protest than resolve the problems. The NY Post is notoriously blatant in seeking to pit folks against one another, and the article you posted is a precise example. If you have not already realized it, below is a educational media organizations take. [If someday you wish, I can relate a personal experience at the home of Murdock's mother -- even she can't buy his brand of politics.] More to the point may be Carl's response below -- these guys are throwing us to the wolves -- fighting amongst ourselves as opposed to recognizing where the inequity is coming from.


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by crfriend » Sun Jun 14, 2020 1:14 pm

Of note here is that the oligarchs would much rather have the plebecite fighting amongst itself than united against the real oppressor.

"Right" or "left", it's the distraction that's key, and some are potentially in the pay of the same paymasters. Few seem to understand this.
Hear hear! Police killing folks -- white, black or pink -- it is not good; not necessary; and anything short of stopping it is our failure, albeit we are hobbled by the powers that be (monied) interests.

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It appears that the latest death was committed while the victim was resisting arrest and n the process of running away. Shooting to death in such a circumstance was unwarranted. Yes, he had a taser in hand but the way he was running, looking backwards, he seemed to have little chance of actually hitting anyone. Neither of the police officers were in any physical danger of their lives so the use of a gun was, if you pardon the expression, complete overkill. It should rarely be justified in shooting someone ( to death ) who is merely trying to escape. They can be chased and if they do get away then they can be captured later. It just seems that the gun is used in too much of a "gung ho" fashion nowadays. Fair enough if the officer feels their life is in danger but this wasn't the case here.

Just as a side note. We watch programmes such as Hawaii 50 and NCIS and there does seem to be a prevalence of the fleeing perpetrator being treated to a "Stop," warning and then the other party is shot, mostly to death. Good for the screen but necessary?
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