Some follow up thoughts on a derailed thread....

Non-fashion, non-skirt, non-gender discussions. If your post is related to fashion, skirts or gender, please choose one of the forums above for it.

Re: Some follow up thoughts on a derailed thread....

Postby dillon » Thu May 16, 2019 12:39 am

Big and Bashful wrote:There is an answer for spent fuel, the fuel can be re-processed into fresh fuel for reactors, it has been done in the past. I was surprised to hear that the British re-processing plants at Sellafield are now being decommissioned. As far as I can gather there is only one reason this is happening, economics. Currently it is more economical to mine fresh uranium out of the ground, the wholesale price for fresh uranium is lower than the cost of re-processing "spent" fuel. This is ludicrous, when I completed my nuclear course 11 years ago one statistic that stuck in my head was that at the rate of extraction and use we have maybe 50 years worth of useable known uranium stocks on the planet. So when the oil runs out, so will the uranium if we carry on the way we are going. Rather than vitrifying spent fuel we should be reprocessing and getting every last useable watt out of the fuel we have.
Of course there is a downside to reprocessing, as there is to refining and enriching fresh fuel, the processes involve nasty chemicals, waste products and cost money and energy themselves, so whatever we do there is a downside somewhere!
Then there is thorium, lots of thorium, maybe three times as much as uranium, can't be turned into plutonium, can be turned into fissile reactor fuel. From memory India is made of the stuff! Three times as much as uranium, hmmm, so 200 years then the reactors are empty of fuel, kind of glad I am not immortal!

We only have one little rock to live on, billions of us, all breeding like people (or rabbits), still the few rich people making the decisions do not need to care what the rest of us are up to as their money breeds and their air con. works!

Bitter? who me? Hell yes!

On that happy note, I have a bottle of white wine chilling, lumps of meat thawing, Sun outside (yes, even on Scotland!) and a comfortable skirt on as well as gas for the barbecue, and today's nuclear emergency (exercise) was successful. Let the cremation commence!


Wine is fine, but liquor is quicker!
As a matter of fact, the sun DOES shine out of my ...
dillon
Member Extraordinaire
 
Posts: 2395
Joined: Mon Nov 18, 2013 8:12 pm
Location: southeast NC coast

Re: Some follow up thoughts on a derailed thread....

Postby FranTastic444 » Mon May 20, 2019 2:14 am

I'll start by saying that this has been a wonderfully meandering post (just how I like them). We have detoured into nuclear energy and bbq's already, where do we go next :-)

I think my biggest issue with the "pro-life" camp is the hypocrisy. Pro-life, to me anyway means just that, that you support life. All life (all lives matter right?) It seems counter productive to me to bring a fetus into a world that will eventually take his or her life back by means of our destroying our habitat, poisoning our food and and water supply, and denying any means of affordable health care coverage, to say nothing for the odds of being involved (drafted) into some nuclear or biological war. It just doesn't make any sense to me.

This is something that I can't get my head around - how a loss of (not yet formed / viable) life through abortion is such a fundamental issue for a particular section of society, yet the same group seem much more willing to accept deaths caused in other ways. I can't remember whether it was Hitchens or Dawkings I was reading when the point was made of the strong correlation between pro-lifers and advocacy for capital punishment.

In full acknowledgement that we are talking here about generalisations (for which there will always be exceptions), many pro-lifers will also be climate change deniers / sceptics. The Times of London has reported over the last week or so about the huge impact that poor air quality has had on people in the UK - leading to 1,000's of preventable deaths each year. The reporting is firewalled, so I won't try to link - but here is a report that gives a flavour of what was being reported. Disclaimer - there has been a lot of pushback against the science and how it has been reported.

Thousands of Americans die in the US each year due to gun violence and to suicide. I think it is fair to say that many pro-lifers are also going to be strong advocates of the 2nd amendment. There is strong evidence that removing 'easy suicide' options reduces the number of deaths. A great case is where the UK got rid of town gas (which at the time was the leading method of suicide) - leading to a 30% reduction in suicides. NPR article here.

Finally, the US has an unenviable record when it comes toautomotive-related deaths (particularly pedestrians). My guess is that many pro-lifers are going to be small government, anti nanny-state, anti-regulation and probably aren't going to take well to legislation that may (slightly) increase the cost of cars or increase penalties for DUI, speeding, not wearing seatbelts etc.

Whilst we are on the subject, a couple of interesting articles. It's ok for me, evil for thee.. Abortion is Immoral, Except When It Comes to My Mistresses

it's impossible for you to post a single comment with out resulting to derogatory comments about the president.

I remember my US family being horrified about a UK show called Spitting Image, which didn't hold back in painting Reagan as a bumbling, nuke-obsessed fool. My aunty spoke of the fact that the office of president should be held in high regard, even if you don't like the incumbent. This seems to have been forgotten years later when there was all sorts of stuff plastered over her FaceBook page about Obama. Now that particular bogey man is out of the way, her page is currently littered with anti-muslim / anti-immigrant memes interspersed with scripture (typical example below).

Image
FranTastic444
Member Extraordinaire
 
Posts: 283
Joined: Fri Jun 08, 2018 1:47 am
Location: Boston, MA

Re: Some follow up thoughts on a derailed thread....

Postby moonshadow » Mon May 20, 2019 2:27 am

Divide the populous
Multiply their fears and paranoia
Subtract their rights
Bring down our nation

Simple arithmetic. I've got nothing left.
"Our task is not to destroy but to build; not to hate but to find a place of yielding; not to polarize but to discover the points of commonality so that we can work together. Learn this lesson, dear friends, it will serve you well"
-Rebbe Zalman
User avatar
moonshadow
Member Extraordinaire
 
Posts: 3920
Joined: Sun Aug 09, 2015 1:58 am
Location: Lebanon, Virginia

Re: Some follow up thoughts on a derailed thread....

Postby moonshadow » Mon May 20, 2019 2:52 am

As for the meme...

... do people even check the constitution before they come up with that crap?

It says in the document that no religious test shall be prescribed to hold public office.
"Our task is not to destroy but to build; not to hate but to find a place of yielding; not to polarize but to discover the points of commonality so that we can work together. Learn this lesson, dear friends, it will serve you well"
-Rebbe Zalman
User avatar
moonshadow
Member Extraordinaire
 
Posts: 3920
Joined: Sun Aug 09, 2015 1:58 am
Location: Lebanon, Virginia

Re: Some follow up thoughts on a derailed thread....

Postby Sinned » Tue May 21, 2019 10:27 am

FT444, how can you knock Spittin' Image? It was a show without equal. It lampooned everyone, and I mean EVERYONE - no favourites or exceptions. Do you know who its biggest fans were? The people being lampooned. HRH, Maggy Thather, politicians, Royal Family, film stars, it didn't matter - they were avid watchers every weekend it was shown and proud to be on the show. The caricatures and puppets left know doubt as to who they represented. Bring back Spittin' Image that's what I say. I think that there's as much a need for such a show now as there was then. So what that they showed Reagan as a bumbling fool? How do you know that Reagan didn't enjoy the show as much as anybody? Any way, anybody in public office or in the limelight for whatever reason is automatically a prime candidate for sarcasm and lampponery. I can just imagine how much fum they would have with Trump - he is an obvious candidate and I bet he'd love it. :!:
I believe in offering every assistance short of actual help but then mainly just want to be left to be myself in all my difference and uniqueness.
User avatar
Sinned
Member Extraordinaire
 
Posts: 3553
Joined: Sun Aug 19, 2012 5:28 pm
Location: York, England

Previous

Return to Off Topic

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest