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The fecal matter contacts the ventilation device

Postby dillon » Wed May 01, 2019 1:56 am

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Re: The fecal matter contacts the ventilation device

Postby moonshadow » Wed May 01, 2019 3:05 am

Goodness gracious! Man there's a lot of sh.... going on!

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Re: The fecal matter contacts the ventilation device

Postby crfriend » Wed May 01, 2019 3:11 am

1) Does it matter and will it make a difference?
2) Will anything meaningful come of it?

I rather suspect that the answer to both of those will be a resounding, "No."

First off, Barr works directly for, and at the convenience of, the President. Bluntly put, "He's on the payroll and is paid to look out for his boss." Secondly, it's of precisely no account to the oligarchs who don't particularly care so long as things stay on the rails they laid down economically. These are not the Nixon days when high crimes and misdemeanours could bring down a sitting president.
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Re: The fecal matter contacts the ventilation device

Postby Sinned » Wed May 01, 2019 10:51 am

Carl, I agree with you whatever it is all about and it doesn't matter a sh*t to us over here either! :D

Incidentally there were some interesting things in some of the subsidiary "articles" further down the screen. I didn't know that I, as an over 60, can get a discount at Burger King, for example. Useful.
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Re: The fecal matter contacts the ventilation device

Postby Kirbstone » Wed May 01, 2019 11:27 am

My first and next visit to a Burger King outlet will be in the afterlife. That also applies to ALL other fast food joints.

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Re: The fecal matter contacts the ventilation device

Postby dillon » Wed May 01, 2019 12:13 pm

crfriend wrote:1) Does it matter and will it make a difference?
2) Will anything meaningful come of it?

I rather suspect that the answer to both of those will be a resounding, "No."

First off, Barr works directly for, and at the convenience of, the President. Bluntly put, "He's on the payroll and is paid to look out for his boss." Secondly, it's of precisely no account to the oligarchs who don't particularly care so long as things stay on the rails they laid down economically. These are not the Nixon days when high crimes and misdemeanours could bring down a sitting president.

That’s not actually the job of the AG. The White House has its own lawyers to advise and defend Presidential actions. Criminal defense of the President is a no-no for any attorney paid by taxes. The AG is supposed to enforce the laws of the Republic, which come from Congress. In Watergate, John Mitchell went to prison for this sort of obstruction. Barr is on the same path. If Barr hasn’t violated his oath of office, he’s perilously close to doing so.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/5/3331

The White House strategy was to use Barr’s foot-dragging on redacting the Special Counsel’s report in order to give the President’s minions and lackeys three weeks to create confusion in the minds of his supporters, although it likely didn’t require that long. Mueller, as Barr conceded in his summary letter, did not bring charges of Conspiracy, a serious felony, against the President or his campaign organization. The President’s strategy has been to conflate the legal term “Conspiracy” with the non-legal term “Collusion.” Even the President’s lawyer, Giuliani, had stated the fact that there is no Federal crime called “Collusion.” That may have been Rudy’s single moment of lucidity in his service to Donald Trump, and I suspect the GOP strategists regret that statement, because it contradicts the President’s claim the Mueller report cleared him of “Collusion.” It did not. Mueller found only that there was insufficient evidence of the crime of Conspiracy. Collusion is in the eye of the beholder. I don’t think any reasonable person can look at the number of high individuals in the Trump orbit with ties and crimes linked to Russia and possibly conclude “Nothing there.”
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Re: The fecal matter contacts the ventilation device

Postby crfriend » Wed May 01, 2019 12:38 pm

dillon wrote:That’s not actually the job of the AG. The White House has its own lawyers to advise and defend Presidential actions. Criminal defense of the President is a no-no for any attorney paid by taxes. The AG is supposed to enforce the laws of the Republic, which come from Congress. In Watergate, John Mitchell went to prison for this sort of obstruction. Barr is on the same path.

The comparison cannot be made because the modern United States is no longer a Republic, and hasn't been for decades. The "rule of law" does not apply at that level any longer. The incident you mention was precisely the last time we witnessed the system working the way it was intended to. I watched it, too, and am appalled by the shenanigans I see today.
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